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    My System: 140cm smw offset dish,strong analogue receiver to move dish,technomate 1000d super,also 5200 d super with smart 0.1db ku lnb and 17k c-band lnbf
    hi rd on my fortec star 1.2mtr offset dish with c-band i get
    55.5w 22channels
    40.5w 110channels
    31.5 1channel
    27.5w 20channels
    18w 2channels
    5w 28channels
    26.2e 32channels
    30.5e 3channels
    40e 8channels
    49e 4channels
    22w 30channels

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    My System: 1,25 Fibostop Jäger Smr 1224 & Smo 36 Dual Axsis Motor Dynasat F1 Monterey 140 Drembox 800 sky Pace HD Box Tagra 2,20 M Fullsize Dish Echostar 2,40m Mesh for cband!
    Hi!
    Very Good!!
    what,lnb ,do you using,normal 14/18 V Switching,or one with polarizer?
    try also now on 37,5 W in Cband Metro Tv,from Ghana,Signal since 5 Days,are very strong ,before,it was weak ,and you need up to 2 meters!

    on 30,5 e i reveive every transponder,but eastbeam only 35% Signal in dvb 2000

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    Very good are you using the 65mm lnb holder which you can get for the 1.2m fortec star which you can see here http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Products/S/LNBHolder3.htm also the Conical Scalar ring which they sell looks good http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Order/LNBFS/C-Band-LNBF.htm

    Do you have any pic of you dish with the c-band lnb on it you can post up,


    Quote Originally Posted by pride21 View Post
    hi rd on my fortec star 1.2mtr offset dish with c-band i get
    55.5w 22channels
    40.5w 110channels
    31.5 1channel
    27.5w 20channels
    18w 2channels
    5w 28channels
    26.2e 32channels
    30.5e 3channels
    40e 8channels
    49e 4channels
    22w 30channels
    Last edited by Rd100; 20-09-2007 at 01:56 PM

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    14/18 v switching with di-electric plate for circular satellites



    Quote Originally Posted by Turok View Post
    Hi!
    Very Good!!
    what,lnb ,do you using,normal 14/18 V Switching,or one with polarizer?
    try also now on 37,5 W in Cband Metro Tv,from Ghana,Signal since 5 Days,are very strong ,before,it was weak ,and you need up to 2 meters!
    on 30,5 e i reveive every transponder,but eastbeam only 35% Signal in dvb 2000
    Last edited by Rd100; 20-09-2007 at 01:57 PM

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    My System: 140cm smw offset dish,strong analogue receiver to move dish,technomate 1000d super,also 5200 d super with smart 0.1db ku lnb and 17k c-band lnbf
    thanks turok,rd i am using 14v/18v switching, the first holder i made out of 52mm copper tube then i bought proper holder from sadoun,the connical feed i made from an original polar feed.i will get some pics as soon as i can,i found the di-electric plate increased the signal when two eighth from opening.

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    My System: 140cm smw offset dish,strong analogue receiver to move dish,technomate 1000d super,also 5200 d super with smart 0.1db ku lnb and 17k c-band lnbf
    this is a pic of dish with c-band you can see how i staggered feed to make it connical then inserted 1 inch wide ali, the same size as each ring
    Attached Thumbnails C-BAND on 1.2m andrews so far so good-picture-frank-020-jpg  

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    My System: DM500s 45E to 45W 1.2M Channel Mater
    Is it possible to pick up Pakkssaat on 38E with a 1.2 Andrews Channel Master Dish in the UK?

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    My System: 4,5 m Andrew -Multifeed C/Ku Band
    .. sorry friend:


    Not even with 2,4 m -
    you need about 3 - 4 m for receiving this Satellite!


    Regards Montafon Guy!

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    Hello,

    I would say that you need a >5m dish.

    Here in south western of Germay I only get a few frequencies with small and weak signal.

    Best Regards
    Edgar.

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    My System: 1,25 Fibostop Jäger Smr 1224 & Smo 36 Dual Axsis Motor Dynasat F1 Monterey 140 Drembox 800 sky Pace HD Box Tagra 2,20 M Fullsize Dish Echostar 2,40m Mesh for cband!
    hi!
    in around 1,5-2 years,****** will also be replaced!
    on packsat kuband,also in pakistan it self the have reception problems
    in the last 3 month,many freqencys has been changed,some comes new,and old switched off,is there now a difrent in some singal receiving then before the change edgar?

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    Hello Turok,

    no, it all remains the same. Nothing changes!

    Best Regards
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    My System: 1,25 Fibostop Jäger Smr 1224 & Smo 36 Dual Axsis Motor Dynasat F1 Monterey 140 Drembox 800 sky Pace HD Box Tagra 2,20 M Fullsize Dish Echostar 2,40m Mesh for cband!
    how,is the p.a.k.s.a.t. signal on your 4,5m andrew dish?
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    Hello Turok ,


    in one Word: ugly!

    And the Programs are not very interesting for me either!


    Regards Montafon Guy!

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    My System: 1,25 Fibostop Jäger Smr 1224 & Smo 36 Dual Axsis Motor Dynasat F1 Monterey 140 Drembox 800 sky Pace HD Box Tagra 2,20 M Fullsize Dish Echostar 2,40m Mesh for cband!
    yes there are many test cards on it,signal,on daytime,is lower then on night time!

    what is the strongest transponder at the moment?
    would be very intresting,to find out the difrence between 3,60m mehs and 4,5 m andrew on p.a.k sat,dx quwer and you should make a blindscan,lets say,tomorow,evening @ 20 h,and find,to find out,how many channels more ,the andrew antenna can catch!
    i hope you have good signal on the rusian ntv channels on 36 east to in kuband?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turok View Post

    ...signal,on daytime,is lower then on night time! ...
    Hello,

    in case of 38°E in Germany, this is not true!

    Best signal is here ~ between 10.00 GMT+1 and 13.00 GMT +1. Some times signal quality is different later/sooner.

    Power TP are (for me) 4104 H and 4055 H. I didn´t get anything from vertikal polarisation.

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    but some signal disapear,during day and night time ,you told me?
    but i forgot the transponders!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pride21 View Post
    hi rd on my fortec star 1.2mtr offset dish with c-band i get
    55.5w 22channels
    40.5w 110channels
    31.5 1channel
    27.5w 20channels
    18w 2channels
    5w 28channels
    26.2e 32channels
    30.5e 3channels
    40e 8channels
    49e 4channels
    22w 30channels

    Can somebody please tell me if this list is still current for today ?


    Cheers


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    Hello Glenn_911,

    no, this list is about 2 years old and not up to date!

    It´s more important to have frequencies of strong satpositions for 120cm dish and not, how much programms you can get with 120cm .

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    Quote Originally Posted by dx qwer View Post
    Hello Glenn_911,

    no, this list is about 2 years old and not up to date!

    It´s more important to have frequencies of strong satpositions for 120cm dish and not, how much programms you can get with 120cm .

    Regards
    Edgar.
    Hello dx qwer


    Can you please help me with a few strong transponders on the NSS 806 40.5 west, specialy the Latin's channels ?

    The size of my dish is 1.2

    Best wishes Glenn_911

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    My System: 1 Meter Primestar Elliptical C/KU. Twinhan 1025 PCI(Linux), Coolsat 6000, Winegard 76 cm dish. 8' Unimesh, HCC9300 Receiver. Diamond 9000 HD, 1m prime focus, 1.2 m prime focus, both on C Band.


    Though defeated by the evil Fresnel this warrier will return victorious!

    Conical Feedhorn

    This device makes a huge improvement on C Band Offset dish systems.

    To get construction details search Walrus1957.

    Also WS International sells a good Conical Feedhorn for a fair price.
    Attached Thumbnails C-BAND on 1.2m andrews so far so good-triple%2520cone%2520version%2520dyi%2520scalar-jpg   C-BAND on 1.2m andrews so far so good-img_9901a-jpg   C-BAND on 1.2m andrews so far so good-img_9904a-jpg  
    I am not a complete idiot, some parts are missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dx qwer View Post
    Hello Glenn_911,

    no, this list is about 2 years old and not up to date!

    It´s more important to have frequencies of strong sat positions for 120cm dish and not, how much programms you can get with 120cm .

    Regards
    Edgar.
    @ Edgar , Glenn send me the PM of You with the list of freq.
    In that PM You are mention , its better to use a waveguide instead of the dielektrikum .
    Can You tell me what that look like and how it works ?
    I already found signal (and picture) at 40.5 W TP 3.977 TV BRASIL
    Signal to on 55.5 W TP 4.134 but coded

    Test done with Maxplus 2100 and Fibo gregorian dish .
    Steered by Pace MSP 995
    Corotor with no scalaring at all in front of the subreflector .
    My soldering iron is smoking all the time .

    Gr. Trust1

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    Hello Trust1,

    a Waveguide feed brings about ~3dB, that´s much especially for small dishes. If you use a dielecrtica plate you loose more signal (dB).

    For PFA you must use a scalarring in front of the feed for C-Band!

    If you want to see fotos of my dish with the waveguide feed, have a look here: _http://forum.dxtv.de/wbb/thread.php?threadid=7883&threadview=0&hilight=&hil ightuser=0&page=15

    Best Regards
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    Thanks , the org. KU-feedhorn on the Fibo gregorian dish has a diameter of 90 mm .
    On his place I put the polarotor , i've tried it with PF scalaring , TRF (conical feed) and a home made 95 mm scalaring .
    The best result was brought by the plain corotor , but the same result came with the 95 mm ring , therefore I have to move the polarotor further away from the subreflector .
    Since the subreflector (230 mm) brings a spot of ± 90 mm , I think its useless to use a scalaring .

    I've tried it also as a normal Offset dish , but that did'nt work better .
    Attached Thumbnails C-BAND on 1.2m andrews so far so good-fbo-polarotor-jpg  
    My soldering iron is smoking all the time .

    Gr. Trust1

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