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    My System: all new to this want to watch showtime on nilesat 7w looking for advice

    nilesat 7w north midlands

    hello chaps
    i am looking to get showtime on nilesat i live in stoke does anyone else have it as far north as me and how do i know what is required i am told a 2,4m channel master will do it but it could be an expensive mistake if it doesnt work

    great site with some cracking info by the way

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    I'd love to know also

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    Posted in the Nilesat 7W thread by RD100:-

    is to ring up Nilesat and ask them for the signal level for your long and lat.

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    The only reports Ive seen north of Birmingham is a solitary one for the Manhester area, and the lad there says something around 1.8m, so Stoke should be about the same. Please note this figure is for a decent quality dish set up by someone who knows what they are doing!

    If you buy one of the 199 quid ones from maplins then you are going to need something far bigger because of the low quality pressings.

    Basically forget it - the dish size required is too big north of London.
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    My System: 75e-75w C & KU, 36v h-h /36v & diseqc actuators / diseqc -USALS motors / Anlg to HD Channel Masters C120s dishes, stb's inc echo3000, lnbs, meters, custom polar mounts & elevation/incline actuator conversions...
    We are 15-25 miles north near Jodrell Bank and get 7w verticals on as low as a 1m- no H's and struggle with weaker verticals... to keep Hs in rain etc.. 1.8 - 2.4 or struggle with a really fine tuned good 1.2m like a Channel Master.
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    If you did go for a Fortec Star £99 1.8m (or £160 2.4m) (like the 1.8 on display at Maplits Stoke... try wobbling it) what I would say is that you can get the 1.8 to perform like a Channel Master or Prodelin 1.8 with very careful setting up and providing it's not already distorted when you get it.... RD100 set one up and he got that sort of performance* …

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    .. you have to allow for some custom strengthening of the dish and the mount because they are simply not strong enough- especially on an exposed location.... one good wind and it could distort and a real storm can wreck it (as happened).

    They take some setting up too...

    Once you've done all that and strengthened it properly you've got a decent enough 1.8m dish for a fraction... (not sure about the 2.4m) we've modified and made loads of sat gear and have engineering facilities so look at any manufactured item from that prospective Channel Master or Fortec Star or a Sky dish... They can all get modified and improved.
    You could PM us if you go down that route and need any help, we are not that far and often in your area (very busy at the moment though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedro2000uk View Post
    We are 15-25 miles north near Jodrell Bank and get 7w verticals on as low as a 1m- no H's and struggle with weaker verticals... to keep Hs in rain etc.. 1.8 - 2.4 or struggle with a really fine tuned good 1.2m like a Channel Master.
    ------------------------

    If you did go for a Fortec Star £99 1.8m (or £160 2.4m) (like the 1.8 on display at Maplits Stoke... try wobbling it) what I would say is that you can get the 1.8 to perform like a Channel Master or Prodelin 1.8 with very careful setting up and providing it's not already distorted when you get it.... RD100 set one up and he got that sort of performance* …

    BUT....

    .. you have to allow for some custom strengthening of the dish and the mount because they are simply not strong enough- especially on an exposed location.... one good wind and it could distort and a real storm can wreck it (as happened).

    They take some setting up too...

    Once you've done all that and strengthened it properly you've got a decent enough 1.8m dish for a fraction... (not sure about the 2.4m) we've modified and made loads of sat gear and have engineering facilities so look at any manufactured item from that prospective Channel Master or Fortec Star or a Sky dish... They can all get modified and improved.
    You could PM us if you go down that route and need any help, we are not that far and often in your area (very busy at the moment though).

    I'm slightly south compared with you in Mansfileld in Nottingham, so what would you recomend, I'm looking at getting a Gibertini 1.5m?, currently on a non branded 1m I get breakup on showtoday during the day but ok in the evenings if this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shane77 View Post
    I'm slightly south compared with you in Mansfileld in Nottingham, so what would you recomend, I'm looking at getting a Gibertini 1.5m?, currently on a non branded 1m I get breakup on showtoday during the day but ok in the evenings if this helps.
    Have a look on the sticky thread on 7w under fringe reception

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    My System: all new to this want to watch showtime on nilesat 7w looking for advice

    nilesat 7w

    I have dropped on a channelmaster 2.4m, will that get it in stoke do you think

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    My System: all new to this want to watch showtime on nilesat 7w looking for advice
    can anyone recommend where to buy the showtime footie card from just as a pointer cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by riproaring View Post
    I have dropped on a channelmaster 2.4m, will that get it in stoke do you think
    Should work nicely IF its set up properly. Remember you will need planning permission to install that monster
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    Quote Originally Posted by riproaring View Post
    I have dropped on a channelmaster 2.4m, will that get it in stoke do you think
    I'll #### say..... nice one

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    Quote Originally Posted by riproaring View Post
    can anyone recommend where to buy the showtime footie card from just as a pointer cheers
    One of the site advertisers does them by the look of it,check my sig.

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    My System: all new to this want to watch showtime on nilesat 7w looking for advice
    Quote Originally Posted by Analoguesat View Post
    Should work nicely IF its set up properly. Remember you will need planning permission to install that monster

    the guy who will install it has got all the meters etc is there anything else i need to know

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    My System: I use a 1.2 Gregorian dish connected to four receivers including a scopus 4.2.2 professional ird2800 and Echostar3600 and two blind scan rx's. My lnb is a quad invacom. All rx's are linked to my packard bell easy one silver laptop.
    Hey up Stokies........

    I live between Stoke and Uttoxeter a get Showtime OK on a Precision 1.8, except when it really lashes down then I lose it. Verticals are OK 24/7.
    A Channel Master 2.4 will do the trick, bloody heavy dish..will need a good ground stand to hold that beast down!

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    My System: all new to this want to watch showtime on nilesat 7w looking for advice
    Quote Originally Posted by scopus View Post
    Hey up Stokies........

    I live between Stoke and Uttoxeter a get Showtime OK on a Precision 1.8, except when it really lashes down then I lose it. Verticals are OK 24/7.
    A Channel Master 2.4 will do the trick, bloody heavy dish..will need a good ground stand to hold that beast down!

    cheers for that all those stokies will be going mental when i get that on where did you get the card from i have been quoted 350 to 650

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    My System: I use a 1.2 Gregorian dish connected to four receivers including a scopus 4.2.2 professional ird2800 and Echostar3600 and two blind scan rx's. My lnb is a quad invacom. All rx's are linked to my packard bell easy one silver laptop.
    The receiver is patched, you will need the card for reliable reception, in other words not waiting for new patches etc..

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    My System: all new to this want to watch showtime on nilesat 7w looking for advice
    Quote Originally Posted by scopus View Post
    The receiver is patched, you will need the card for reliable reception, in other words not waiting for new patches etc..

    i am sorry i not with with you what card will ineed the showtime one

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    My System: I use a 1.2 Gregorian dish connected to four receivers including a scopus 4.2.2 professional ird2800 and Echostar3600 and two blind scan rx's. My lnb is a quad invacom. All rx's are linked to my packard bell easy one silver laptop.
    Quote Originally Posted by riproaring View Post
    i am sorry i not with with you what card will ineed the showtime one
    You can patch most receivers so that they don't require a smartcard to view the channels you want, I don't think keys are available for Showtime at the present time, so you would need an official card and subscription to view.

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    My System: 1 x CM 1.2m matching C120 feedhorn and Invacom 0.3db twin output LNB.50 degrees East to 42 degrees West.1 x CM 1.2m AZ/EL mount matching C120 feedhorn and twin output Invacom 0.3db Humax VACI 5300 Old Panasonic Digibox with IRL $ky sub. Coship FTA

    I live near Antwerp on the way to Liege, what size dish do I need fo Nile and the Middle East beam.

    What brand of dish is this?
    _http://www.kapaza.be/Telecommunicatie/Satellietontvangers_en_schotels/11385354/Satelliet_schotel_180_cm_met_alle_toebehoren.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenmanBelg View Post
    I live near Antwerp on the way to Liege, what size dish do I need fo Nile and the Middle East beam.

    The verticals can be picked up with a 1m with no rain at a similar latitude here accross the channel. So I would have thought a 1.8m, even a prime focus should do reasonably well for the horizontals as well, where you are.

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    My System: 1 x CM 1.2m matching C120 feedhorn and Invacom 0.3db twin output LNB.50 degrees East to 42 degrees West.1 x CM 1.2m AZ/EL mount matching C120 feedhorn and twin output Invacom 0.3db Humax VACI 5300 Old Panasonic Digibox with IRL $ky sub. Coship FTA
    Thanks for that.

    I asked that question on another thread so sorry to duplicate.

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    i'm sure this should help u out m8


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    Nice cut and paste from the Al##t forum there.

    Good info still anyway

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    Those dish sizes are all over the place like the What sat figures.

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    My System: all new to this want to watch showtime on nilesat 7w looking for advice
    hi guys got 2.4m channel master installed for showtime got all the verticals but no horizontals which showtime is on transponder 15 anybody help been on it for two days and its doing our heads in

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