Astra 2D help

[Skylark320]

Apologies if this is in the wrong forum, new to the forums.

Recently bought the Maplins satellite kit that has a fortec star, 65cm Dish and single Lnb.

Only interested in the basic freesat channels, as we struggled to get freeview through any medium, shape or size of aerial!

Having used a needle meter/beeper to get as high pitched as possible, i scanned the astra 2a/b/d option, and was inundated with polish etc channels. However, the frequences for the freesat channels such as 10773, failed, and looking further the signal quality for them was about 5%, but i couldn't get the needle meter any higher in reading.

Living in North West London i wouldn't assume reception to be an issue for Astra 2D having read it is centered on the UK.

Anyone have any ideas why i can't get those few 2D frequences i am after?

Thanks

Ben

[Tivù]

You are pointing at Hotbird 13E, or Astra 1 at 19.2E not Astra 2 at 28E!!

_http://www.flysat.com/tv-pl.php

Wang it further East and try again.

Elevation will need to go down a couple of degrees too

Similar frequencies used on different Satellites, hence you scan the "28E" (or whatever) label and still get results .................... but not the ones you wanted.

[Tivù]

When you've hit 28E and are happy with the scan results, take a look at http://www.satellites.co.uk/satellit...light=Icecrypt

The kit you've got may well include the LNB FSUKVN which has misleading Skew adjustment.

[Skylark320]

Thanks for the polish channel link, those are some of the channels that i got so i must be pointing at hotbird instead as you said.

How come these come up when i scan under Astra 2 though?

[Tivù]

Thanks for the polish channel link, those are some of the channels that i got so i must be pointing at hotbird instead as you said.

How come these come up when i scan under Astra 2 though?

See last part of Post #2 ..............


The Receiver has no idea where the dish is pointing and a stored "Satellite" is just a label and a simple data list. Call it "Fred" , if you like.

Only you can match "Fred" to a real Satellite in the Sky, by correct alignment.

The usual wrong Satellite is Astra 1 at 19.2E, but you are best placed to confirm which wrong Satellite you are on. Could be either from what you've said so far.




Welcome to the Forum, by the way!!

[Skylark320]

ok, well i shall pop back up there and turn it slightly east and see if i can find 28E.

And thanks for all the warm response! Kept searching but couldn't find a post similar to my issue so thought i would just sign up and give it a go!

[Analoguesat]

Skylark - welcome to the forum!

We have all aligned a dish onto the wrong satellite at some point - cheer yourself with the thought that you have done the hard bit - getting any signal at all

Mark the bolts and mounts with a pencil so if you get hopelessly lost you have a reference point to return to.

You will need to drop the elevation of the dish a little as well.

[Skylark320]

hey guys, i have used a map on the internet to find desired elevation etc but i am still picking up poliwh channels etc but it is saying ok for the 10773 frequency but not finding bbc etc.

[Tivù]

hey guys, i have used a map on the internet to find desired elevation etc but i am still picking up poliwh channels etc but it is saying ok for the 10773 frequency but not finding bbc etc.

Ok.

I think you have moved from Hotbird @13E to Astra 1 @19.2E.

So, very much the same again: You've now gone 6 degrees further East from the first wrong position and a bit down, so go another 9 degrees East and a bit further down.

Don't worry about other resources now - just do it by experiment. You've already found two different Satellite positions, so the knack is with you.

[Analoguesat]

You need to swing the dish east (and down a fraction)

The smae frequency blocks are reused right around the satellite arc, so if your dish is pointing at satellite A but you tune into the frequencies of satellite B then you will get channels scanned where ever the frequencies in use coincide on the two satellites.

See if you can find the Dutch regional channels on 11914 H 27500 3/4 at 23.5E. These are a HUGE signal - you literally cant miss them. They also have the advantage thats the only frequency they are carried on.

Once you find those you are close to 28E

[Tivù]

You're very slow this afternoon, AS.

Typing fingers frozen?

[Analoguesat]

Nah - late night yesterday

[satelliteman]

See if you can find the Dutch regional channels on 11914 H 27500 3/4 at 23.5E. These are a HUGE signal - you literally cant miss them.

Also assuming you don't accidentally lock on 11.919h on 26.0°e, very possible if carefully aligned to get something on badR with a 65cm in London. I've accidentally locked onto this previously with a similar sized dish.

If and when you do fine 23.5°e, it's only a very small movement further East to find Astra2.

[Skylark320]

ok guys, will try this when in it next daylight as i've been out for the evening! Thanks for all the advice though, i'll get there soon!

Are any of the satellite finders that run in like google maps any good? Cause i was working off them but they seem to have sent me in the wrong direction!!

Thanks

[satelliteman]

Are any of the satellite finders that run in like google maps any good? Cause i was working off them but they seem to have sent me in the wrong direction!!
Thanks

All you need is a cheap and cheerful squawker meter, an understanding of general El angles and the ability to read a rough bearing on a compass. Be prepared to scan for channels on the receiver a few times. Can also be done using the receiver signal screen.

I think if you keep at it and follow all the above guidance, you'll soon crack it and be enjoying the beauty of Astra2 programming. Well.....not all right

[ralphmagno]

hello,
this would be easier if you had a better meter.
if you are in the uk you should look at some other dishes to get the approx direction.
if you are geting polish channels the above advice is correct you may be in 19 east.
in that direction and standing behind the dish there is one at 13 east.
1 inch to the left there is one at 16 and another there is one at 19.
few inches to the left there is one at 23 few more one at 26 and another inch or so there is one at 28 which is where you want to be.
the dish lnb if standardly made needs to point to 7 on the clock where the cable screws on undernneeth.
this if you are facing the front of the dish.
this is the scrw of the lnb because the satellites in that area are slanted is space.
if you set up the bbc frequency and some one can look at the sig strength and quality while you are moving the dish a little at a time.
you can peek the signal out and it should be a lot easier.

hope this helps a little
ralph

[Skylark320]

thanks all, shall get back to you next week when i next have a chance to try it out!
Iplayer it is til then!

[Skylark320]

hey guys, just to let you know i had another go xmas eve and the reader suddenly went off thesving my achart and i have tv...thanks for saving my xmas...i am US ng one or two channels like SSN/Five US, any ideas?

[Topper]

Glad you got sorted, if you would care to translate the rest of the post perhaps someone may be able to answer whatever the question is

[Tivù]

hey guys, just to let you know i had another go xmas eve and the reader suddenly went off thesving my achart and i have tv...thanks for saving my xmas...i am US ng one or two channels like SSN/Five US, any ideas?

Sky Sports News, Five US, Fiver are Encrypted on satellite.

Sky Sports News is a Subscription Channel and the Five offshoots are Free To View (Card required,but no Subscription) on " Sky" not Free To Air (Clear and universally available).

But well done on getting the alignment right