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    Hi
    My neighbor has a dreambox500. i asked him if i could watch some channels and he aggreed ,so he turned on his wireless router which the dm500 is connected on and turned on the wireless and gave me his passwords to connect to the router !

    i bought an accesspoint and its working very well, i am connected to the router i can go to internet....

    in my browser i typed the dm ip address and i logged in dm500 and access the enigma web interface.
    from the channel list i select the channel i want to watch and then i click on the vlc and it donwload a m3u file. i open it with vlc media player but it doesn't show any video , i wait for a long time but nothing happens.

    i dont know what i am missin.. am i doing anything wrong ?
    i really need help with this thing.

    Thanks in advance

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    Any error messages? Check the VLC log and post the contents if its not empty. (Under Tools -> Messages, or press Ctrl+M)

    Have you tried other versions of VLC?

    Also, try watching a Free to air channel when testing to be sure its not a problem with a channel not decrypting properly.
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    Thx for the reply buddy !

    10 mins ago i tried again to watch a channel and finally i got video which is not clear and NO SOUND at all !

    here is a snapshot of vlc :



    Is this related to bandwidth or my wireless signal or something else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgworld View Post
    Is this related to bandwidth or my wireless signal or something else?
    It's most likely is a bandwidth problem, I cant think of anything else that could cause it.

    Depending on how your AP is configured you could be loosing bandwidth.
    Under certain setups the bandwidth could be being halved.

    E.g. A linksys wifi router configured as a 'client bridge' looses half of the available bandwidth going from 54Mbps to 27Mbps. This would be with a wireless G (802.11g) wifi network.

    The above would probably be fine, but if its a wireless B (802.11b) you'd be halving your connection speed from 11mbps to 5.5mbps at best. The actual through put could be as little as half this again. So you can see why streaming would struggle.

    I would check which wifi standard is being used by your neighbors wifi router. If its set to B, change it to G if possible (It may not be with older routers).
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    Hi cgworld,

    It is most likely bandwidth as compufunk says but is probably signal level related. In my own house I can only just stream video from the high quality standard definition channels at the extremities of the house. When fta HD stations were available I could not stream them even with Laptop next to WiFi router (but they were perfect with a wire Ethernet connection). I very much doubt I could get a strong enough signal to stream even standard definition TV if I took my laptop next-door!
    Check the WiFi signal level and when you have optimised the position of your WiFi receiver, try again.

    Also (my pet subject, don't you know!) try clicking the Audio PID number instead of the VLC button and you will be sent an 'audio.pls' file instead of 'video.m3u'. Open this in the same way with VLC and you will stream just the audio of the selected channel. This obviously requires much less bandwidth so should work fine. It will at least let you know that everything is working and lack of bandwidth/WiFi signal is the most probable cause of Video streaming problems.

    Best wishes, John.

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    Use a card sharing proggy, like cccam

    Setup is easy and You can find it here in this site, just use search.

    Then there would be no problems

    Anyway, wireless is no good for sharing
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    I may not have read correct but is the setup that your neighbour has a Dreambox and you are accessing it via web interface from your pc? Whats does he think when you change channels when he is viewing? lol

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    thanks for the reply guys !

    today while i was trying to watch a channel suddenly i got very high quality and clear video , i clicked on the vlc button and then open the m3u file and had a very nice video+audio about 1 hour and after that i closed vlc media player . after 2 hourse when i tried again to watch the same channel it was again like the above image , not clear image! green and...

    but i think that time my nighbore was watching the same channel or...
    i dont think its bandwidth problem ! if it is bandwidth so why i was watching that channel about one hour without having even one problem ?

    any encryption or decryption ?

    Thanks Again guys
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    any solution ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgworld View Post
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    i dont think its bandwidth problem ! if it is bandwidth so why i was watching that channel about one hour without having even one problem ?
    I still think its a bandwidth problem. If wireless reception is marginal, you may have had enough signal to stream for an hour, then somebody in your neighbors house closes a door or moves something and you lose your signal.

    Have you done any testing??? Why not visit your neighbouor and see how streaming works within his/her house.

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    any encryption or decryption ?
    I have no idea what you mean here.

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    well i have a problem,, when i use it it doesnt open it keeps asking the password,, but sometimes it just opens and it gives me the green screen of above,, can someone pls help me!! bcoz i'm trying this for days!!

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    My System: TM500/sky HD 1mtr motorized dish
    its bandwith prob m8

    router will only stream at 54 m/bits ps at best when within good range
    you also have to take in account opf walls microwave and other household goods possibly interfering

    best bet would be to run cat 5 between houses through a switch then you will get constant 100 m/bits ps
    you can run approx 100 mtrs at this rate

    you also have to take in account next door might be using a lot of b/width
    depending on what he is doing ie surfing or downloading files.

    which will reduce your recieving b/width

    i stream from my d/box through a switch and cable to my pc / software/bitcontrol digital tv link and media player if find vlc a bit hit and miss
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    I can't believe this has not been mentioned yet. This is a DM500 right ? In order to watch a channel via web interface / vlc it must be the channel being viewed on the box or at least a channel on the same transponder. If he is watching channel 1, you cannot watch channel 2. If that's telling you something you already know, then as mentioned its ost likely a bandwidth problem or maybe a windows problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B16MCC View Post
    it must be the channel being viewed on the box or at least a channel on the same transponder........
    I don't think that was ever the issue here B16MCC. The OP was using the web interface to select channels.

    TBO I would suspect that the OPs reluctance to actually test/validate anything would suggest that he was trying to access a network/stream/box that didn't belong to him/her.

    There will be no more help from me until its proven that this is not the case.
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