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    using them separately is violation of TOS and can be subject of civil law. This is nearly what your contract says.
    Have you ever seen a Sky UK contract?

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    Right well I am glad we cleared that up...not.

    Now the law at the moment is one thing, but I got no friggin idea why it is being spoken about here as this is a technical issuethat has arisen, not a legal one.

    The poijnt of this thread is " Sky Italia cards no longer working in dreamboxes".

    Dont give a rats ass about sharing, that isnt the issue.

    Now does anyone have any constructive/technical know how into this.
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    yeah yeah yeah, we all know that we do it for hobby wise. Them who want everything for under 100 notes are not so much into the hobby but are just blatantly after something for cheap. I wish you lot who argue over the law would do something constructive with your free time, haha.

    I think what we have got to see what happens in new versions of emulators. They normally come out once every few months and new features range from minor bug fixes to new support. We shall see what happens. It is the waiting game unless you can use SCAM on a separate server and send it to CCcam...extra hop but job done.

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    OK, time to get constructive.
    Does anyone know anything about SCAM ? Is it even a server or just an emulator ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by B16MCC View Post
    OK, time to get constructive.
    Does anyone know anything about SCAM ? Is it even a server or just an emulator ?

    I think it has even stopped working on scam now mate

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    Yes, no longer working with scam either...

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    Hi all i am a Sky italia customer, i've 2 full packages and i can 100% that no emu is still working on trasponders that broadcasts with the new ecm len, few channels are still ok with all other emus.

    I head that in the earlier months a similar attack was done by Sky brazil and someone fixed an old newcs version (1.20) to work with it, anyone knows about that?

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    I thought the issue was related to the emu and not the cs

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    I thought the issue was related to the emu and not the cs
    Who talked about cs? I just want to see my regular subscriptions on my Dm800hd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziubelu View Post
    Hi all i am a Sky italia customer, i've 2 full packages and i can 100% that no emu is still working on trasponders that broadcasts with the new ecm len, few channels are still ok with all other emus.

    I head that in the earlier months a similar attack was done by Sky brazil and someone fixed an old newcs version (1.20) to work with it, anyone knows about that?

    You did "someone fixed an old newcs version (1.20) to work with it"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziubelu View Post
    Who talked about cs? I just want to see my regular subscriptions on my Dm800hd.
    Therin lies the problem, Sky want you to use thier boxes not something else using an emulator to decrypt thier cards. It seems to me that the coders have been got at, namely Ccam or Newcs and the fix will be a long time coming, I hope I'm wrong but I'm not confident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildBit View Post
    You did "someone fixed an old newcs version (1.20) to work with it"
    Newcs is just software to read your card, lot's of people use it who are not involved in c/s at all.

    -Wally

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallycharlo View Post
    Newcs is just software to read your card, lot's of people use it who are not involved in c/s at all.

    -Wally
    I see the confusion now... I was referring to Card Server

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    Therin lies the problem, Sky want you to use thier boxes not something else using an emulator to decrypt thier cards. It seems to me that the coders have been got at, namely Ccam or Newcs and the fix will be a long time coming, I hope I'm wrong but I'm not confident.
    Just had confirmation that a new CCcam will be available soon that handles BIG keys and possibly read NDS3. Apparently reads Sly Italy already.
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    forget that, NewCS had crashed

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    Quote Originally Posted by shumifan50 View Post
    Just had confirmation that a new CCcam will be available soon that handles BIG keys and possibly read NDS3. Apparently reads Sly Italy already.

    Itseems whoever confirmed this to you may have been misinformed, it really is not looking good at the minute.

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    Itseems whoever confirmed this to you may have been misinformed, it really is not looking good at the minute.
    Well it seems you know better - who told you?

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    Common sense told me since you ask. Its not working so how soon is soon ? Given that Cccam is created by a single person the likelyhood of anyone knowing when a fix will be released if at all is very slim, unless of course you know the creator or better again you are that person, both of which I doubt very much.

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    In my opinion,
    i wish the old times of Gbox back !
    everything was NP and only they who understand the shematic of this emu are able to view!
    i´m from Germany and there is it like a sport for the masses!
    that can´t be the interests of sharing,
    or with a Hobby to get a alternativ better Satellite Reciever like Dreambox Working with Original Cards!

    So in my opinion :
    reading is the key that unlocks the door of knowledge
    and not only watch Pay-tv without subscription!

    Payserver only using the nescience of those who don´t understand the system!

    my opinion .. don´t hurt me..

    cu Oschy

    I didn´t found any editing funktion so i´ll have to make Dubble Posting:
    Reading the Card with Newcs and give it forward to CCcam
    so it would be working.
    but like i wrote one post ago,
    without knowledge it´s very hard!

    cu Oschy

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    Oschy666 you are perfectly correct in your assesment regarding newcs, thats exactly how to do it, there is a modified vers of newcs out at the moment, working on Azbox and then forwarded on through share, Italia is working via this method.

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    Would second level contact to the team be OK Sir?
    I am told they are testing at the moment and a few close friends alreayd have the new version. If I understood the broken English correctly, then Sly It reads directly in CCcam - no need for NewCS. Being a software developer myself, I understand that they cannot give an exact date when they will release as it depends on how the testing goes and how much free time they have - they don't have written specifications!!! LOL. And nobody pays them, it is a labour of challenge!
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    Good news shumifan50,

    Lets hope its as you predict, otherwise maybe Sly UK next!

    Read somewhere that cccam 2.1.3 was ready for release when this all happened, and had been canceled?
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    Freddy: Please note that this is not my prediction, it is feedback from the CCcam developers. I am only informed second hand.

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    I find its always best to keep to the facts in a public thread guys. Let's leave the arguing and mindless speculation to the other forums. If shumifan50 has what he believes is solid info then let's wait and see. At the end of the day only time will tell. After all it's just a hobby don't let it spoil your day, when its fixed its fixed, not before. I read just now that butter team have thrown the towel in, but hey who do you believe? Me, who has nothing to do with them and doesn't even know their country of residence ? No of course not, lets wait and see.

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    I hope that someone will fix it.Iff does not then it will not bee good. Next might bee slx ux, totxtv and other ndx packages.

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