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    Quote Originally Posted by dominus View Post
    do we have to confi anything on the n line of cccam? I never used newcs do I just copy the file (over right? ) this that it?

    many thanx
    Yeah, just replace the newcs xml file on your box with the one you download. You dont need to replace your cccam cfg file if you already have your own one configured. Just copy the first line of the one you download "the N line" and put it into your own cccamcfg file.

    You need to use NewCS 1.60 or newer. Don't use older versions of NewCS. They can fry the card.
    Put the newcs.xml in /etc/tuxbox/config/ and the CCcam.cfg in /etc/.
    The version of CCcam is not important, but keep it newer than 1.71, if You want to use it for cardsharing.

    Good luck

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    thanks man this is very very good news

    do you by any chance know if an nds3 Sky it card works as well?

    do you think i might need to lower the speed of the newsc file you posted from 450 to 357?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomthebomb1968 View Post
    Yeah, just replace the newcs xml file on your box with the one you download. You dont need to replace your cccam cfg file if you already have your own one configured. Just copy the first line of the one you download "the N line" and put it into your own cccamcfg file.

    You need to use NewCS 1.60 or newer. Don't use older versions of NewCS. They can fry the card.
    Put the newcs.xml in /etc/tuxbox/config/ and the CCcam.cfg in /etc/.
    The version of CCcam is not important, but keep it newer than 1.71, if You want to use it for cardsharing.

    Good luck

    Thank you:
    I will try this evening. Will then post the feedback

    kind regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by sblinx View Post
    thanks man this is very very good news

    do you by any chance know if an nds3 Sky it card works as well?

    do you think i might need to lower the speed of the newsc file you posted from 450 to 357?
    Sorry m8, I dont know, hopefully someone reading this who is more experienced than me can give you some advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomthebomb1968 View Post
    Sorry m8, I dont know, hopefully someone reading this who is more experienced than me can give you some advice.
    donot try to read nds3 Sky it card in internal dreambox reader, will cook you card.use external card reader, phoenix programer or simular...
    card read well at newcs_1.60 answer time ~130ms 3,57mhz

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomthebomb1968 View Post
    Yeah, just replace the newcs xml file on your box with the one you download. You dont need to replace your cccam cfg file if you already have your own one configured. Just copy the first line of the one you download "the N line" and put it into your own cccamcfg file.

    You need to use NewCS 1.60 or newer. Don't use older versions of NewCS. They can fry the card.
    Put the newcs.xml in /etc/tuxbox/config/ and the CCcam.cfg in /etc/.
    The version of CCcam is not important, but keep it newer than 1.71, if You want to use it for cardsharing.

    Good luck

    Hi tom, not working. DO I need to change anything in the xml file? like ip or ports?

    regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominus View Post
    Hi tom, not working. DO I need to change anything in the xml file? like ip or ports?

    regards
    No m8, I just used the file as it came, It worked first time for me Just had to restat the cam.
    Have you inserted the N line into the cccam.cfg file?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomthebomb1968 View Post
    No m8, I just used the file as it came, It worked first time for me Just had to restat the cam.
    Have you inserted the N line into the cccam.cfg file?

    HI, it opened. thanx Neverthless i have hear that many people damaged the box trying to share. I was not able to share the card only open.

    Thankx for the info

    regards

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    Glad you got it to open. I dunno why it wont share for you. If you look at the cccam config file that is in the download it only has one active line, which is the very first line, the N line. Every other line has a # at the begining which cccam ignores. these are just information lines and explantions. If you copy and paste the N line into your own cccam config that you use for your shares it should work. It works for me. Im still a learner but I have read of people frying their cards while experimenting with overclocking, but not the Dreambox itself
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    Quote Originally Posted by heracle75 View Post
    donot try to read nds3 Sky it card in internal dreambox reader, will cook you card.use external card reader, phoenix programer or simular...
    card read well at newcs_1.60 answer time ~130ms 3,57mhz
    thanks for your replies tomthebomb and heracle75

    i have a usb infinity phoenix reader

    does this programmer work ?

    thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by B16MCC View Post
    Guys, since posting last in this thread, I've now got the NDS card running in the DM800 in CCcam using the smargo reader. Please let me know if you'd like information on how to do it.
    hi m8
    i have just got one of the smargo readers from satstore please can you tell me how i get it running on cccam or do i need to run newcs as well
    cheers dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomthebomb1968 View Post
    -http://www.4shared.com/file/60970974/45476f7b/DM800_configs.html
    Thanks for this. It works on my DM800, but AU (auto update) doesn't work. I need to put the cards for 24 hours in a Sky box to get them to update. Is this normal? Is there a way around it?

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    To be honest I dont know. I have checked my entitlements and the earliest is 30/11/08 and the latest is 10/12/08 so I am probably not due any updates. Though I suspect I have received these recently I cant be certain that the card was in the 800, it may have been in my relook running just cccam while I was working out how to C/S.

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    I have done a bit more reading and it seems that the card will not update from the internal reader using cccam and newcs at present even though it can be viewed. From what I understand the emms reach the card but are corrupted by the time they get there, so are ignored. The card will update with Mgcam or Evocam. I use CCcam to connect to my C/S but if I switch to one of these after viewing and leave it overnight it should update if the updates are sent during this time.

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    Hi, sorry to kind of "gate crash" this thread but my friend is having a little trouble with Sky HD card on his dm800, here is what he has done so far:

    He downloaded the latest enigma2 version of Gemini for his dm800, Gemini flashed fine and he downloaded CCcam. Again CCcam was working fine on how it should work apart from 1 thing, i.e. It was all connecting fine to everything apart from reading his Sky uk hd card.

    Anyways me and him thought that he may have to use newCS, so we looked into new cs, put 1.60 onto the box and enabled the emu CCcam with newCS 1.60 and still no joy, the card would not read, it kept coming up as unknown card.

    Anyways I then realized for newCs 1.60 you need to add in the box number, so he tried that and it still never worked. I then checked a popular dreambox forum and found that 1.62 of newCS was available, in this version no box number is needed, so he downloaded engima2 version of that and he couldn't figure out how to enable it with CCcam as it wasn't in the cam selection list.

    We then thought ok, since me and him have both used CCcam in the past and not newCS it could of been the N lines that were the problem, again we checked and checked and the N line looked fine which was to be linked to the CCcam.cfg file.

    I then noticed that Niablosat image came with CCcam 2.0.9 and NewCS 1.62 as a package from the green button, so he flashed with niablo image (the latest one), downloaded the CCcam 2.0.9+NewCS 1.62 pack and it eventually read the card.....however no HD channel would open with his card.


    So my question is this, has anybody got a sly uk card working with the 800 on Gemini and What settings should he be using? If it does work on Gemini then how does he get his box to recognize the NewCS 1.62 for enigma2? Also the other point is, if this isn't currently possible due to support, is they any reason why Niablo image will unlock the normal SD channels but not the HD ones?

    Just to clarify then, he has a Sky uk HD card, it has tried CCcam 2.0.9+NewCS 1.60 on Gemini and no look, he tried installing 1.62 on Gemini and it's not in the emulator list. But yet the card works for SD channels only on latst version of Niablo image but will not clear HD channels.

    Thanks

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    Hi Sharkadder. While my Sky package is not HD I am a"friend" of someone who has HD and uses Gemini 3.8 along with the 2 files from my earlier post. He reports that HD is clearing on his 800 from internal reader.

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    So can you ask your friend if the CCcam keeps the HD card alive and if i have 2 cards, do they need to be done from separate boxes? I've heard people say you do need them, then i've heard other say that it's rubbish and you can do it without.

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    Guys my SkyHD card is in a smargo reader and CCcam keeps it alive no problem. I couldn't say how it may work if used in the internal reader. Bare in mind when using the internal reader the card is totally controlled by NewCS. CCcam is simply a client of NewCS as it would be if you where sharing from someone else. NewCS is responsible for keeping the card alive. If it fails to update the problem lies with NewCS.

    Sharkadder - No box ID needed in NewCS.
    Simply setup NewCS as standard.
    Add a user using the web interface.
    Edit your CCcam.cfg and add the N line to connect to NewCS using the user details you just added.

    Having to change cams in order to catch an update is simply out of the question if you're sharing. I know for sure my peers would be enquiring why the server was down after a few hours downtime.
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    strange my cardreader has stopped recognising the Sky card tonight, I've got the newcs.xml file and its still running ccam 2.09, but it didn't work

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    Quote Originally Posted by B16MCC View Post
    Guys my SkyHD card is in a smargo reader and CCcam keeps it alive no problem. I couldn't say how it may work if used in the internal reader. Bare in mind when using the internal reader the card is totally controlled by NewCS. CCcam is simply a client of NewCS as it would be if you where sharing from someone else. NewCS is responsible for keeping the card alive. If it fails to update the problem lies with NewCS.
    HI, so if I have a smargo reader I do not need to place the sly card in the orginal box? Does it receives the keep alive signal? Also do I just need cccam?

    thank you for help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharkadder View Post
    Hi, sorry to kind of "gate crash" this thread but my friend is having a little trouble with Sky HD card on his dm800, here is what he has done so far:

    He downloaded the latest enigma2 version of Gemini for his dm800, Gemini flashed fine and he downloaded CCcam. Again CCcam was working fine on how it should work apart from 1 thing, i.e. It was all connecting fine to everything apart from reading his Sky uk hd card.

    Anyways me and him thought that he may have to use newCS, so we looked into new cs, put 1.60 onto the box and enabled the emu CCcam with newCS 1.60 and still no joy, the card would not read, it kept coming up as unknown card.

    Anyways I then realized for newCs 1.60 you need to add in the box number, so he tried that and it still never worked. I then checked a popular dreambox forum and found that 1.62 of newCS was available, in this version no box number is needed, so he downloaded engima2 version of that and he couldn't figure out how to enable it with CCcam as it wasn't in the cam selection list.

    We then thought ok, since me and him have both used CCcam in the past and not newCS it could of been the N lines that were the problem, again we checked and checked and the N line looked fine which was to be linked to the CCcam.cfg file.

    I then noticed that Niablosat image came with CCcam 2.0.9 and NewCS 1.62 as a package from the green button, so he flashed with niablo image (the latest one), downloaded the CCcam 2.0.9+NewCS 1.62 pack and it eventually read the card.....however no HD channel would open with his card.


    So my question is this, has anybody got a sly uk card working with the 800 on Gemini and What settings should he be using? If it does work on Gemini then how does he get his box to recognize the NewCS 1.62 for enigma2? Also the other point is, if this isn't currently possible due to support, is they any reason why Niablo image will unlock the normal SD channels but not the HD ones?

    Just to clarify then, he has a Sky uk HD card, it has tried CCcam 2.0.9+NewCS 1.60 on Gemini and no look, he tried installing 1.62 on Gemini and it's not in the emulator list. But yet the card works for SD channels only on latst version of Niablo image but will not clear HD channels.

    Thanks
    0961 work in 800HD gemini soft for me at newcs_1.60 at 8mhz. i update it with mgcamd once at month without need boxkey. also working newcs_1.60+cccam_2.0.9 but no update in this case.
    is anyone try to read new 0963 cards, is posible to read?
    Last edited by heracle75; 12-12-2008 at 03:05 PM

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    Hi. I am having some probems setting up the smargo reader on my 800. I have done all as requested but still not opening card (NDS Sky on CCCAM).

    Nabilo 0.5

    The smargo has a light (green) flashing when connected to the dm800 and with the card inside

    Settings:

    SERIAL READER : /dev/ttyUSB0 smartreader+
    SMARTCARD CLOCK FREQUENCY: /dev/ttyUSB0 4500002

    Any help os much appreciated

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    I am thinking of buying viasat hd package, it is also nds system, so does anybody know if it works with same principles in dm800 as Sky hd packages?

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