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    Thor or Sirius in Southern France

    I am helping a friend setting up a system down in southern France in Nice.

    Does anyone receive these satellites down there and could you please tell me what size of your dish is?

    I could skip Sirius as Viasat is crap television anyway, but it's more important to know what size i need for Thor down there.

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    Don't think that we have too many members with steerable dishes down in that area Likvid, interesting to see if anyone has a dish on 1W. Will move this to the new Fringe Reception section, might have more luck there.

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    Rolf, was curious what is a steerable Sattelite, I saw some channnels on ASTRA that mention steerable on www.lyngsat.com

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    Hi powel000 -
    I think rolfw was talking about steerable dishes (ones with a motor) there, as opposed to satellites.
    Although satellite 'beams' are also steerable and this may be what you saw on Lyngsat.

    Hope this helps


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    Likvid, as footprints don't always tell us the truth, give a try in this french forum: _http://forum.satmag.fr/

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    A few years ago when I was watching 1W on analogue a 1.8m dish pulled in Intelsat, Thor II and III. A 90cm dish would just about work for Intelsat and Thor II, albeit with a few sparklies. I would think that 1.8m should do for the digital channels even though there are weaker than the analogue.

    This is near to Orange 84 BTW.

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    No French people here?

    I am going down to South of France in Cannes in July and have ordered a Channel Master 1.2m dish from my distributor, i hope really this is enough, otherwise i will end up with a spare dish.

    I have searched the net and there doesn't seem to be much interest in satellite-TV in France, i tried the forum someone suggested but i didn't get any answer that was good.

    As the customer can't have a 1.8m dish on his terrace this really needs to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Likvid
    I have searched the net and there doesn't seem to be much interest in satellite-TV in France,
    Nearly every large super market sells satellite dishes / receivers.

    I fitted a 60cm dish near Bordeaux and it picked up the main position (Astra, Hotbird) no problem.

    Bought the dish LNB in the local electrical store - cheaper than the UK.

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    Reading the footprints i can see that it's 50-50 chance with a 120cm as the footprint line where the installation should be is just on the line where it says 115cm, after that and not too far away the next line says 190cm.

    How is it in London, U.K? do you receive Thor with 120cm or even a smaller dish?

    I am asking because i want to know how true the footprints really are as the London area clearly states that a 120cm dish is necessary, about 43dBW.
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    Look at the picture attached of the Thor footprint, the black rectangle at the coast is where the installation will take place.
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    Anyone receiving Thor on Ireland here?

    Size?

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    The biggest problem with both 1W and 5E is that multiple beams are in use off both locations. For 1W, theres about 5 different footprints available. Which channels are you most interested in?

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    Thor & Sirius in South of France (Nice - Vance St Paul)

    I have installed for a friend in Nice a 1,8 m dish + Humax 8100 CI + Conax modul + Canal Digital Sweden on Thor, reception ok, I was also trying to receive Sirius, the only Swedish
    program received was SVT Europe, no reception about Viasat.
    About Thor we started with 1,1 m from Triax and loose many times the signal, now with 1,8 m 100% ok.
    We receive also sky digital with 1 meter dish.

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    There are only two footprints from Thor 1 and 2.

    Quote Originally Posted by Analoguesat
    The biggest problem with both 1W and 5E is that multiple beams are in use off both locations. For 1W, theres about 5 different footprints available. Which channels are you most interested in?

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    Thanks, i might need to talk to my client about a larger dish.

    I am going to install above Cannes.

    Did you get any picture at all on Thor(Canal Digital) or was it pixelized?

    Do you remember the quality reading in % you got on the receiver and Triax dish?

    I have ordered the Andrew Type 120 dish with original feedhorn which specifies 42.0dBi midband gain, the Triax TDA110 got 40.2dBi midband gain, actually the Triax TD110 is only 105cm in reality.

    That difference can help if i am lucky.

    Quote Originally Posted by spirou832
    Thor & Sirius in South of France (Nice - Vance St Paul)

    I have installed for a friend in Nice a 1,8 m dish + Humax 8100 CI + Conax modul + Canal Digital Sweden on Thor, reception ok, I was also trying to receive Sirius, the only Swedish
    program received was SVT Europe, no reception about Viasat.
    About Thor we started with 1,1 m from Triax and loose many times the signal, now with 1,8 m 100% ok.
    We receive also sky digital with 1 meter dish.
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    Talked to a dealer down in the area yesterday, 120cm is no problem on Thor he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Likvid
    No French people here?

    I am going down to South of France in Cannes in July and have ordered a Channel Master 1.2m dish from my distributor, i hope really this is enough, otherwise i will end up with a spare dish.

    I have searched the net and there doesn't seem to be much interest in satellite-TV in France, i tried the forum someone suggested but i didn't get any answer that was good.

    As the customer can't have a 1.8m dish on his terrace this really needs to work.
    I live quite close to Nice (70 km) and with a 1.25m dish I can get:
    - all the channels from Thor/Intelsat 1w, included the nordic beam (probably not the spot2, but there are no channels on it)
    - all the channels form Sirius 5e, except the nordic beam (I can get only the powerful 11747V TP, Viasat: unuseful for me...)

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    Thanks, that was really good info.

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    Hi, We have an installation recently done in Cannes. Using a 1.8m dish we get really good horizontal recpetion but rubbish vertical. We are trying to get Thor channels..

    Can some one offer any guidence?

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    Thanks. is a bigger dish really the only way to get more of teh channels through?

    The two channels we are looking for are TV2 and Rikstoto. If wee can get these some other way maybe?

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    Those two channels are on the most unfavourable beam for you - the Thor 3 Nordic spotbeam. Bigger dish required.

    TV2 Norway may be possible via Thor 5 or Sirius 4. Rikstoto is only on Thor 3.

    You do know you will also need a subscription for those two channels?
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    Yeah, things have changed since this thread was started. We used to get good reception of everything from 1w on an 80cm dish in Switzerland but then Thor 5 came along and made reception from the T1 beam impossible with that setup.

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    Thanks. Has anyone tried using sling box as we hvae a system in Norway so i am thinking we could use sling box to get the channels over to France this way? We have card with full subscription both in France and in Norway.

    Or any other suggestions...??

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