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    FREE "RedHot" & XtraView on DVB-T PC Systems!

    FREE “RedHot” on DVB-T PC Systems!


    The fact that "RedHot" is about as hot a dull episode of emmerdale farm is not the point. The point is it’s *NOT ENCRYPTED*, even a little bit!


    On a normal set top box you would have to pay a £12 subscription [then £6 per night after that!] to get you past the MHEG password screen.


    On a PC DVB-T device all you have to do is manually enter the stream’s PIDS into you channel list file.


    VIDEO PID = 7070

    AUDIO PID = 7071


    That’s all there is to it. If only Top Up was that easy…..
    Last edited by Nick [D]vB; 15-05-2005 at 08:40 AM Reason: typoz

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    Phwoarr - Emmerdale.....

    Seriously it does sound interesting, in much the same way as the Albanian TV sport was for most people, impossible to pick up, the channel could not be detected by MPEG2 receivers until the right PIDs were manually entered.


    Makes you wonder how many other signals there are out there just waiting the right manipulation
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    what about video PCR and program ID settings? I only get sound

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    The A/V PIDS are the only "hidden" ones, If you can use TSReader with your device you can find the others, but here they are anyway:

    PCR PID = 2304

    PMT PID = 259

    TS ID = 12290

    SERVICE ID = 15680

    If you have a Nokia MediaMaster Set Top Box you can enter them manually on that aswell.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick [D]vB
    ...If you have a Nokia MediaMaster Set Top Box you can enter them manually on that aswell...
    How do you enter channels manually on a Nokia MediaMaster?

    I can't find any manual option on my 9850


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    Don't you have an option to do a manual scan in the menu.

    I seem to remember my Nokia 221T has the option to enter pids when you tell it to scan in manual. (i think) will confirm this and the S/W ver when I get home.

    L.
    Last edited by Lancelot; 19-02-2005 at 05:53 PM Reason: Terrible grammar

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    All I have is add channels and store channels

    Add channels does an auto scan and adds any channels it finds to the current list. Store channels erases the current channel list and stores all the ones it can find.

    But each one is automatic and doesn’t allow anything to be changed manually. Perhaps it’s the ancient firmware this box is running, details in the screenshot.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PoloMint
    But each one is automatic and doesn’t allow anything to be changed manually. Perhaps it’s the ancient firmware this box is running, details in the screenshot.

    Thats virtually identical to the embedded terrestrial box I have in the Bush TV here, which is probably coming up for three years old. No auto updates available that I have found as yet - comes up 'update error' - and so I am not even sure if this would be able to receive TUTV.
    There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness"

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    seems to be only the 221t model that can be used.
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    Sadly, that may be the case.

    Confirmed working on my Nokia Mediamaster 221T though




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    I did have this working on my Nokia 221T but it was blank last night - have they changed the PID? or just a fault?

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    I think you must have a fault mate, the PIDs haven't changed since launch.

    Tune your Box to Channel 5 before going into the PID menu.

    Nick
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    For people using TSReader use:
    FILE -> DEFINE MANUAL CHANNEL -> ADD

    then fill in as shown below:

    Program Number: (Anything not in use ie: 65)
    PCR PID: 0x0900

    Then add 2 streams
    (Video)
    Stream Type: 0x02
    Stream PID: 0x1b9e
    (Audio)
    Stream Type: 0x04
    Stream PID: 0x1b9f

    UT.

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    My System: Nova DVB-t pci
    Is it possible to do this via showshifter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiMoof
    Is it possible to do this via showshifter?
    ...or WinTV2000?

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    free red hot on dvb-t pc systems

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick [D]vB
    You must have a fault mate, the PIDs haven't changed since launch.
    would it be possible to use a ts reader with a nokia 9850t box. or is there any way you can manually enter pids in the menu

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    ...And thou were the truest friend to thy lover that ever bestrad horse..."
    I scanned it in last night to have a look as this thread seems to have gathered some momentum.

    Good god ! - they are some rough old bints on there .
    SERIOUSLY if trolls the size of busses speaking with a
    home counties accent is your bag then you have arrived.

    Other wise it really isn't worth the time entering the pids matey





    L.

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    What kind of busses?



    Quote Originally Posted by Lancelot
    I scanned it in last night to have a look as this thread seems to have gathered some momentum.

    Good god ! - they are some rough old bints on there .
    SERIOUSLY if trolls the size of busses speaking with a
    home counties accent is your bag then you have arrived.

    Other wise it really isn't worth the time entering the pids matey





    L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lancelot
    I scanned it in last night to have a look as this thread seems to have gathered some momentum.

    Good god ! - they are some rough old bints on there .
    SERIOUSLY if trolls the size of busses speaking with a
    home counties accent is your bag then you have arrived.

    Other wise it really isn't worth the time entering the pids matey

    L.
    I only tuned in quickly to see if it worked, as the Mrs was watching a movie on BBC1 at the time (no, really... 'won't be a minute love - just testing'). If I'd had known, I'd have told her to go watch her film downstairs!

    Were any of them car mechanics by any chance?




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    Top Up TV have just launched a new PPV service called XtraView,

    Check out the "Look Around You" style website:

    http://www.xtraview.co.uk/

    If you've got a Nokia MediaMaster 221T / 121T or a DTT card for your PC you can get it free by entering these PIDs into its channel entry:

    PMT PID 293 (0x0125)

    PCR PID 2304 (0x0900)

    MPEG2 Video Elementary Stream PID 5989 (0x1765)

    MPEG2 Audio Elementary Stream PID 7560 (0x1d88)


    That's £365 you owe me....
    Last edited by Nick [D]vB; 07-04-2005 at 03:53 PM

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    LOL, you want cash or LV's?!?!


    I'll try it tommorow. If I can get it to work, the whole family will love me again...




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    I accept all major credit cards...

    Did you get it working???

    You might also be able to get it on the NetGem I-Player using these scripts:

    http://www.denismartindale.supanet.com/previous.html

    Let me know if it works,

    Nick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick [D]vB
    I accept all major credit cards...

    Did you get it working???

    You might also be able to get it on the NetGem I-Player using these scripts:

    http://www.denismartindale.supanet.com/previous.html

    Let me know if it works,

    Nick
    Had no audio when I tried it this morning (during Boomerang) but tried again just now (Disc H&L) and audio OK?!?

    Also get strange video effect where every 20 or 30 seconds, you get a few frames of the video from the same channel, but from a few minutes before, then video is restored to normal. Weird. You can still watch a program, but it's very annoying. I've never seen it before, and have no idea what might be causing it.

    Signal strength is very good here, and there's no pixelation.

    As far as watching TV it's a bit of a bummer, but as an experiment it's fantasitic.

    Don't know if there's anything you can suggest?

    The RedHot PIDS work flawlessly for long periods (err. allegedly...)

    STICK
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    I think everyone had dodgy audio this morning [ even the paying customers ] so I think it must have been a problem at SDN, they seem to have sorted it out now though.

    No idea what's causing that weird video bug?!? It sounds like its clearing some sort of frame buffer but are you sure these phantom frames are from a few minutes earlier???

    I know they use some very strange MPEG2 encoding parameters [criminally low bitrate, strange GOP structure with very long I-frame intervals, 544X578 resolution etc]

    What kind of decoder are you using? Maybe it can't cope with the strange format they are using - which is fair enough!

    I found some people working on an MHEG keygen but I think they change the algorithm every few hours so I don't think it's very practical - I'll let you know if they crack it.

    Cheers,
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    My System: n/a

    wintv nova-t-usb2

    purchased this product do you know if it will work. scanned channels but no option to change pid's any other way around it.?

    please help

    thank you.

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