Sirius 5e - Nordic Transponders???

bigtee

Regular Member
Joined
Sep 4, 2006
Messages
469
Reaction score
22
Points
18
Age
38
My Satellite Setup
Sky; Raven 90 multi-LNB 1W,5E, 7E, 9E, 13E 16E, 19E, 28E; 60cm Triax dish on Moteck SG2100 motor; Various Receivers
My Location
Kent, UK
I am curious as to whether folk here can receive signals from the BSS/FSS Nordic beams of the 4.8e satellite. If so, which transponders?

I'm planning to fine-tune my set up and it would be helpful to use this as a test and compare.

@Robbo (who is near me), your results on the 1m Orbital in particular and the TD 110 (if they are available) would be very helpful.
 

Ratchet

Regular Member
Joined
Nov 7, 2005
Messages
266
Reaction score
68
Points
28
Age
57
Location
Falkirk
My Satellite Setup
TM 5402(M2), TBS 6983, Sky+ HD, Stab USALS HH100, Faval 1M, Triax TD54, Hauppauge HD PVR
My Location
Falkirk
With my 85cm dish in Glasgow I can get all of the Nordic beams in good weather. Some are stronger than others, here is a list of signal quality readings from my Passion HD taken today (dry but partly cloudy).

11727 H - 64%
11785 V - 51%
11804 H - 54%
11823 V - 52%
11843 H - 55%
11862 V - 54%
11881 H - 54%
11900 V - 54%
11919 H - 55%
11938 V - 54%
11958 H - 55%
11977 V - 55%
11996 H - 55%
12015 V - 55%
12034 H - 56%
12054 V - 51%
12092 V - 52%
12399 V - 50%
12437 V - 53%
12456 H - 60%
12476 V - 62%

The Passion needs 50% quality to reliably lock a signal so as you can imagine most of these have no rain fade margin.
 

moojuice

Member
Joined
Sep 5, 2008
Messages
56
Reaction score
0
Points
6
Age
38
My Satellite Setup
AZBox Premium HD+, Fortec Star FS-4200, Comag SL30/12,
Triax TD110 dish, Jaeger99 motor (modified for inclination - 12" superjack), AzureWave AD-SP400 PCI card (Twinhan thing), Satlook Colour HD meter
My Location
Southampton, UK
Ive just had a look at 5e too In Southampton on my TD110 and the Nordics seem to be about 58-59% Level, 98% quality on ALT-DVB (Mantis DVBS2 card). I havent double checked every Nordic freq, just picked a couple off of Lyngsat that are listed as Nordic and not Europe beams.

Weather currently overcast, dish probably isn't perfectly aligned either!
 

Uk2cyp

Regular Member
Joined
Oct 21, 2003
Messages
94
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
69
My Satellite Setup
TM 6900 Combo Motorised 80cm + dual lnb in UK
TM 1500 Motorised 80cm in Cyprus

Hotbird 13E
Astra 1M widebeam
Astra 1H
1W T2 Beam
7E,5E,10E,16E,26E,33E,42E
4W,7W,8W,12.5W,15W
All Ok with 80cm in cyprus
My Location
Kent UK and Cyprus
50% signal in SE kent with 80cm
 

satelliteman

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 7, 2007
Messages
12,039
Reaction score
387
Points
83
My Satellite Setup
See signature
My Location
Northants, Midlands UK & Lanzarote, Canary Islands
4.8°E, BSS Nordic beam Transponders >

11.727H
11.785V
11.862V

Midlands, 85cm.
 

wod

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 7, 2005
Messages
4,213
Reaction score
238
Points
63
My Satellite Setup
1m channel master, jaeger smr1224, Inverto black ultra twin, technomate tm-1500ci, broken receiver vantage x221ci, New additions Skybox F5s and technomate tm-5402 HD arriving soon.
My Location
yorkshire
here is what i get but I'm probably nearer the footprint

11727 H - 83%
11747v 73%
11785 V - 70%
11804 H - 76%
11823 V - 75%
11843 H - 76%
11862 V - 76%
11881 H - 76%
11900 V - 73%
11919 H - 76%
11938 V - 73%
11958 H - 76%
11977 V - 73%
11996 H - 76%
12015 V - 73%
12034 H - 76%
12054 V - 73%
12092 V - 76%
12399 V - * hd no receiver to test
12437 V - * hd no receiver to test
12456 H - 83%
12476 V - 83%

west yorkshire, 90cm channel master, smart titanium lnb, vantage x221ci receiver
 

Analoguesat

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Jul 26, 2003
Messages
50,870
Reaction score
11,306
Points
113
Location
Scottish Borders
My Satellite Setup
TM 5402HD
Sky+ UK.
My Location
Scottish Borders
I can just get the Nordic beams on one of my battered 80cm dishes in good weather - the first hint of rain and the signal disappears (didnt see much of them during the last year!)

Ive just swapped that old dish for my 85 cm Penta so Im expecting a better performance once I get it fully tweaked and the hedge trimmed back a bit.

(Ive also mounted the pole correctly so it doesnt swing around in high winds which should help a bit!)
 

satelliteman

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 7, 2007
Messages
12,039
Reaction score
387
Points
83
My Satellite Setup
See signature
My Location
Northants, Midlands UK & Lanzarote, Canary Islands
Analoguesat said:
I can just get the Nordic beams on one of my battered 80cm dishes in good weather - the first hint of rain and the signal disappears (didnt see much of them during the last year!)

Ive just swapped that old dish for my 85 cm Penta so Im expecting a better performance once I get it fully tweaked and the hedge trimmed back a bit.

(Ive also mounted the pole correctly so it doesnt swing around in high winds which should help a bit!)


Another Penta boffin A/S, looking forward to a signal report across the skies up there :D
 

Analoguesat

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Jul 26, 2003
Messages
50,870
Reaction score
11,306
Points
113
Location
Scottish Borders
My Satellite Setup
TM 5402HD
Sky+ UK.
My Location
Scottish Borders
Its only roughly aligned at the moment as I had to go out this afternoon. If the weather is ok next weekend I'll have a go at tweaking it up a bit.
 

satelliteman

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 7, 2007
Messages
12,039
Reaction score
387
Points
83
My Satellite Setup
See signature
My Location
Northants, Midlands UK & Lanzarote, Canary Islands
Analoguesat said:
Its only roughly aligned at the moment as I had to go out this afternoon. If the weather is ok next weekend I'll have a go at tweaking it up a bit.

So the birds lost their bird bath then as last time I saw it she was on the ground (posted a while back) :cool:
 

Analoguesat

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Jul 26, 2003
Messages
50,870
Reaction score
11,306
Points
113
Location
Scottish Borders
My Satellite Setup
TM 5402HD
Sky+ UK.
My Location
Scottish Borders
They lost the bird bath a long time ago - its been propped up under the hedge blocking up a gap for a while!
 

bigtee

Regular Member
Joined
Sep 4, 2006
Messages
469
Reaction score
22
Points
18
Age
38
My Satellite Setup
Sky; Raven 90 multi-LNB 1W,5E, 7E, 9E, 13E 16E, 19E, 28E; 60cm Triax dish on Moteck SG2100 motor; Various Receivers
My Location
Kent, UK
Thanks all for responses; rather surprisingly, I have always been able to get only about three of the Nordic transponders (12456 and a couple of others); quite baffling considering my results on other satellites in the arc westerly from 5e right from 1w - 30w including Nilesat! However, I can't get further east than 5e due to obstruction; maybe that has something to do with it or is the footprint of the Nordic TPs weaker down here in the south?
 

Ratchet

Regular Member
Joined
Nov 7, 2005
Messages
266
Reaction score
68
Points
28
Age
57
Location
Falkirk
My Satellite Setup
TM 5402(M2), TBS 6983, Sky+ HD, Stab USALS HH100, Faval 1M, Triax TD54, Hauppauge HD PVR
My Location
Falkirk
bigtee said:
Thanks all for responses; rather surprisingly, I have always been able to get only about three of the Nordic transponders (12456 and a couple of others); quite baffling considering my results on other satellites in the arc westerly from 5e right from 1w - 30w including Nilesat! However, I can't get further east than 5e due to obstruction; maybe that has something to do with it or is the footprint of the Nordic TPs weaker down here in the south?

Unfortunately the officialy published footprint doesn't even include most of the UK. But at your location I would expect the signal to be better than at mine, particularly as you have a 1M dish Vs my 85cm. Is it possible that your arc is off slightly resulting in the wrong elevation when the dish is at 5.0E ?
 

bigtee

Regular Member
Joined
Sep 4, 2006
Messages
469
Reaction score
22
Points
18
Age
38
My Satellite Setup
Sky; Raven 90 multi-LNB 1W,5E, 7E, 9E, 13E 16E, 19E, 28E; 60cm Triax dish on Moteck SG2100 motor; Various Receivers
My Location
Kent, UK
Ah ---- I should say, my motorised set-up has the one small flaw; the mast is makeshift and probably not 100% plumb vertical. Nevertheless, I get very very good results on all satellites within line of sight (including Thor Nordic and Nilesat Vs and some Hs occasionally) - so the tracking seems reasonable!
 

fintannl

Regular Member
Joined
Jan 11, 2009
Messages
257
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
48
My Satellite Setup
Single Sat Dish and DM800
My Location
Ireland
would you think there is any hope of getting sirius 4.8 using a 1.2m dish in the irish midlands or is that pushing the fringe concept just a bit too far
 

Analoguesat

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Jul 26, 2003
Messages
50,870
Reaction score
11,306
Points
113
Location
Scottish Borders
My Satellite Setup
TM 5402HD
Sky+ UK.
My Location
Scottish Borders
I rather doubt it - even if you can get them in good weather there wont be much if any rain fade margin. The signal strength nose dives south and especially west
 

Robbo

Retired Mod
Joined
May 17, 2007
Messages
6,424
Reaction score
5
Points
38
Age
57
Website
www.mbcsatellites.co.uk
My Satellite Setup
TM6800HD, TM1000, TM600 Linux,TM2200 motor, Channel Master 1.2m motorised, TD110 dish Meter=Satlook Micro+G2 NIT
My Location
Gravesend,Kent,UK
bigtee said:
I am curious as to whether folk here can receive signals from the BSS/FSS Nordic beams of the 4.8e satellite. If so, which transponders?

I'm planning to fine-tune my set up and it would be helpful to use this as a test and compare.

@Robbo (who is near me), your results on the 1m Orbital in particular and the TD 110 (if they are available) would be very helpful.

Sorry, bigtee, only just noticed this thread ONLY A YEAR LATE!!! lol, anyway, here is what I have on my TD110 (no longer have the Orbital)on my TM6800
(needs 49% for picture, I get 64% on MBC 7W, and 76% on MBC 26E.


11727H 76%
11747V 67%
11785V 62%
11804H 73%
11823V 66%
11843H 73%
11862V 69%
11881H 73%
11900V 67%
11919H 73%
11938V 68%
11958H 74%
11977V 69%
11996H 76%
12015V 69%
12034H 75%
12054V 68%
12092V 70%
12399V 73%
12437V 74%
12456h 79%
12476h 79%
 
Top