uk bbc channels normally on 28.2 on intelsat 907 27.5w ?

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These days I'm experiencing a reduction in signal quality from 9.9 db to 9.3 db on this transponder.
The channels are still watchable though.
 

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These days I'm experiencing a reduction in signal quality from 9.9 db to 9.3 db on this transponder.
The channels are still watchable though.
No change here, except when it rains, this week we have had rather a lot, more than in the last three years. 1.2 mtr offset.
 

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Well, I have to correct my earlier conclusion ;)

It's not an imminent card failure but it seems to be man made RF noise coming from a certain direction. Last time outside working hours the signal was error free. Yesterday the BBC transponder was ok but 11121V was heavily affected. There's a large construction site with 4 tall cranes in the direction of Intelsat 907 but outside the line of sight. Is it possible that they use anti collision radar? If the jamming was inside the IF range, all positions should suffer but that is not the case. It's only within a sector of the arc.
 

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After replacing a tuner on my dm800 I noticed it now scans the transponder and the error message is no more 'tuner failed' but 'invalid service, PMT timeout'.
What image works for dreambox receivers? I'd like to try,although I already use a dedicated tm receiver to watch the satback transponder.
 

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maybe you should try openATV 4.2 image now that openPLI don't support dreamboxes anymore but you will need to use the short mode version in the bbc_pmt_starter.sh file.
 

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all black here. Another key change or something worst ???
 

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Key Change Looks to be more frequent now.
 

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new codes already available.... apparently..

saw this on a local Spanish forum, : "an acquaintance who works in this area mentioned in conversation a few weeks ago that they were going to be changing the BISS Codes on a more regular basis until they implemented a new far more secure encryption system."
 

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Not too surprising really. Details on this satellite are everywhere now.
 

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Frankly, I'm surprised steps have not been taken long ago to secure these Channels.
 

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Why would they care? As long as reasonable steps are taken to prevent violation of rights. I don't imagine this is a big deal for the people controlling this. Nobody is losing significant income and changing the encryptation method would involve a certain outlay which is probably not worth the while.
 

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Yeah well you viewers using 27.5W would think like that wouldnt you.

Of course its a major issue or Arqiva wouldnt be trying to crack down on illicit viewing of their signals.

Of course if they were REALLY nasty they would change the codes every day over the holiday period...... Change the codes frequently enough & people soon get bored of having their screens go black for a few hours at a time at inconvenient moments.......
 

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BISS is hardly a reasonable step to prevent rights violations in this day and age.

But I certainly agree there is a cost-benefit equation.

Let's face it, the true DTH Broadcasts of BBC etc. Channels continue to restrict rights violations by the employment of state-of-the-art narrow beam technology, so clearly it is a matter of concern to them.
 

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Ahem just stream these channels like me when astra 2E does its daily wobble on the fringes:-ohcrap

Sorry off topic

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The ironic thing is by forcing people off 27.5W more people will then look for other ways to view the channels, like iPlayer via VPN/SmartDNS. This then increases the load and bandwidth required to stream and ends up costing the channels money too. At least when viewing via satellite you're not sucking extra resources from the broadcaster, it's only the rights people that get upset.

Hopefully one day we'll be allowed to view whatever we want to pay for in Europe... but probably not in my lifetime!!
 

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Of course its a major issue or Arqiva wouldnt be trying to crack down on illicit viewing of their signals.
They're hardly cracking down. I'm sure it's more of a case of being seen to be doing something because the feed is not supposed to be for public access. Despite what you see on forums I would guess there are fewer than a thousand people using the feed (probably far fewer) - it's not exactly user friendly after all. If this represented a real problem to Arquiva then they would have done something about it a long time ago. If they do change the technology in the future you can be sure it will be for more important reasons than a few ex-pats taking advantage of their feed.
Let's face it, the true DTH Broadcasts of BBC etc. Channels continue to restrict rights violations by the employment of state-of-the-art narrow beam technology, so clearly it is a matter of concern to them.
Again, the narrow beam technology probably has more to do with technical improvements to increase the efficiency and life-span of expensive satellites than stop people illegally watching programmes.
Nobody is actually losing any money that they would otherwise earn, are they?
 

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Do not think its the small number of private users that are the problem concern here, I believe its maybe the rip off merchants that rebroadcast them.

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Rebroadcasting and streaming of these 27.5 services is happening on an industrial scale, and a few people are making large amounts of money.
It enables streaming head-ends to be located outside the EU. UK broadcasters have a very limited ability to prevent such piracy. Introducing higher levels of encryption must be part of the plan. Those who post BISS codes in the name of 'freedom to view' are aiding those involved in reselling BBC and ITV services.
There is also the issue of the tens of thousands of UK expats living in the Algarve and the Costa Del Sol, often elderly, who lost their BBC. Many have been persuaded to buy 27.5W systems. Some are effectively trapped in exile, unable to sell their homes or return to the UK, often short of money. They are easy prey for scammers offering to get their TV working again.
Even BBC insiders argued against moving services to UK narrow beam, but they were overruled by executives eager to scale back the cost of acquiring broadcast rights. Whether this is right or wrong, it isn't going to change in the short term. The priority now is restricting viewing to the British Isles and near continent.
 

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Those who post BISS codes in the name of 'freedom to view' are aiding those involved in reselling BBC and ITV services.
not true! On the contrary these pirate rebroadcasters/resellers can easily afford the necessary hardware to brute force the control words in a few minutes. By disclosing the keys the private amateurs can watch without paying money to the criminals as long as this weak encryption method lasts :D
 

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Why would pirate rebroadcasters bother to spend money on cracking BISS codes when there are hackers who'll do it for free?
 
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