Yes, the Mailwasher shows in the processes list, but doesn't open, just seems to run in the background, have disabled on startup and am starting manually for the moment. Have uninstalled Goldtach and may try reinstalling or move across to something else. Can't understand why the Windows Firewall keeps reopening though. Sure I'll get there, just may take a while, want to get it right, as this installation will be moving to a new high performance home in the mext couple of weeks.