Thanks T.G for the reply

i have already been to that site actually and all the links are dead as they where when i last visited it the other day

I have managed to get progdvb to run successfully but its a big sluggish on my system and is causing problems namely broken picture and blockyness, the broken picture has nothing to do with my signal strength i believe but the blockness can be fixed with a patch so they say but i couldnt get the patch download link to work,but it was very easy to set up as u said. I am using the latest beta version as i was having problems with earlier ones. Im not really a fan of the program but everyone has there favourite. I just need to get he remote control running next. I am definately going to try the software rolf suggested once i get xp installed. Im amazed at the amount of channels that have moved to seca 2 and viaccess 2 in the last year, one of my favourite transponders was on astra 19e i think and it had sbs6, net 5, discovery and cinecinema etc etc on it and it was great but now it seems a little... well.... unobtainable, pity (for the moment anyway)
thanks for the offer rolf but i can get xp off a mate of mine.