Ksada2 yeah i do have that problem as it happens lol the dish doesnt always turn when i want it to or if i turn the DB off at the mains and start it up again it always wants to go back to 19.2 for some strange reason. So sometimes you have to move it manually in the menu or if that doesnt work wait a few mins and try again. sometimes "go to 0" sorts it out

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Yeah C+ is abit random for satan it is 1 of them where its luck if you get it unlike something like premiere sport portal which i love on a weekend hehehehe.
so if i get satfreaks will this have everything satan has in but abit extra or not? can i use both at the same time? if so great.
And yeah them sats are the gems i find too, 30 west is like a goldmine, 19.2 is ok, 28.8 FTA only really and 13E just the odd bits and bobs really.
As for channel 4, 5 and sky 3 i hear that channel 4's contract with sky runs out next year and apparently they arnt going to sign a new one, because of the analogue getting switched off i hear they are just going to put the signal clear.
Just from what i heard mind, but yeah nice views there and i think if i remember i can sometimes get VH1 on 19.2 with satan, just depends really, its random from day to day.
I was just curious if i've just about reached my limit that's all