I was in Currys today to be fed some freesat bullpoo, they had three HD boxes on display (Humax, Grundig, and another one for £119.99), and I thought I'd try to record the sales people giving me the guff about why they can't sell a box without installation and why they have to add extra cables and change the LNB on an exisitng dish, but they never even bothered to ask if they could help, even though I kept picking up the boxes to look at them (they're nice, cost too much for just SD use though), so I took the following picture which contradicts what the leaflets between the Humax and the Grundig say...
