I have a very low opinion about many of the sky installers. A few years ago I installed sky digital here myself using an old 60 cm analogue dish with a new lnb on it. A few months later next door had sky installed. My other half happened to be home that day and had an interesting conversation with the ladder monkey which went something like this LM - want sky installed? OH - got it thanks lm - nah you cant have on that dish oh - got it thanks lm - not possible on that old dish love oh - points through the window at the telly which had Planet Rock playing - whats that then? Scotch Mist? lm - slinks away very quietly