just to update my findings on the fracarro 85cm alluminium....as there seems to be a few peeps in various forums wondering about them..
My original setup was an 80cm steel or tin dish with 0.6 uni lnb from lidl. this was very good for fixed/strong sats, and quite acceptable for weaker sats, but in rain...pffft.....i have now motorised my system with a darkmotor and found the vibrations of the motor went through the dish making the whole thing a tad noisy.
the new dish is much quieter when moving and here are some examples of improvements read in similar conditons. lots of low cloud/drizzle
SAT Freq Pol. Channel 80cm Lidl 85cm Fracarro
12.5W 12515 H LA7 0% 50%
12612 V Sports Feed 30% 50%
1W 12723 H Ani Plani 45% 58%
13E 12597 V BBC world 55% 63%
16E 11449 H Supersports 0% 40%
Basically a tremendous improvement in receiption and the "squarial" look of the fracarro is brill......a worthwhile investment and recommended to anyone......although i have to fine tune on a sunny day im more than happy with it now.....the strong sats are fine of course and even get a bit more from them too.... might get another one fixed setup soon...