What could I do with this lot?

ghinzani · 04-03-2009

I've got the usual Sky+ setup feeding downstairs however I would like to get the Analouge version of Eurosport whilst its still there so I can watch Moto GP (hopefully) in my office. Feeding into the office up in the loft at present I have the original Sky satellite dish with a single LNB. I also have a Morgans Kingston diseqc 1.0 box (powers up and looks like it works) and a Uniden ust 7007 (untested so far). Would these work with the sky dish? The Sky dish is the same sort as the quad LNB one installed last year - would it need a different LNB to be able to work if pointed at the correct Satellite?

First post so please be gentle, and not too technical as I am not au fait with this to any great degree. Many thanks for your time.

**Robbo** · 04-03-2009

The sky dish won't work for Analogue on 19.2E because its pointing the wrong direction, and (before my time) most likely far too small as well.

All the dishes I have seen that were previously used for analogue were about 80cm.

So, an 80cm dish, new LNB pointed at 19.2E with your vintage set, should get you what you want.

**Topper** · 04-03-2009

Originally Posted by Robbo

All the dishes I have seen that were previously used for analogue were about 80cm.

Well with a correctly tweeked and tuned dish and correctly skewed lnb a 60cm should get you a picture but it may have sparklies in inclement weather. I used to watch 19.2East OK with my 60cm way back when. Don't forget with digital it is either there or not with analogue there is the possibility of still receiving a signal with a crappy picture

**Robbo** · 04-03-2009

After thinking about it, I think they were 60cm, but I couldn't get on to edit my post.

An 80cm for good measure though.

**Analoguesat** · 04-03-2009

The site has been having technical problems again today.

In the analogue days 60 cm was recommended for the southern half of the country, with 80 cm for the northern half.

The newer sats are all of much higher power so a 60 cm should work fine anywhere in the UK except maybe during heavy rain. Even a 43 cm zone 1 should work acceptably if thats all thats available.

ghinzani · 05-03-2009

Thanks people for all the info, much appreciated. So as I in the New Forest and thus very south I should hopefully just be able to point my dish at 19.2east and that may do the trick? Whats 'skew' mean in relationship to the LNB? Is that just another term for it pointing in the correct direction?

**Robbo** · 05-03-2009

It is the 'twist' of the LNB in its holder.

When the satellite is east of your location, you twist it anti-clockwise (from behind dish), vice versa for western sats. Dishpointer etc will tell you roughly where to set it, but it is normally done by adjustment for best signal.

ghinzani · 05-03-2009

Thanks - got an offer of a whole Analouge system from a friend if this lot doesnt work, but will give a try first and report back.

**iandoh** · 07-03-2009

Originally Posted by ghinzani

Thanks - got an offer of a whole Analouge system from a friend if this lot doesnt work, but will give a try first and report back.

Just so you know, I use a 43cm at 19.2 sometimes with a analogue receiever, I get VERY few sparklies unless its raining so your dish now will be fine.

ghinzani · 11-03-2009

Ok now I am really confused. I thought I would check the satellites still recieving before I borrow my mates sat finder at the weekend, so I plugged in one of those vanilla digi box's Lidl were doing a few years back. Anyway first of it was saying Astra 28 east, so I did a chanel search and its got 1041 channels, mostly scrambled but... then I looked at the antennae option and it said Astra east 19 - so I switch it to that and it picks up over 1200 channels, and not in the same order as the earlier 1041 or indeed the same channels. Now its doing a search of Hotbird that looks different again.
Whats this all about? I thought you could only be pointed at one satellite at a time? I guess I will have to wait for the weekend when I can borrow a satellite finder to ascertain where I am pointing at? Any explanations of the above woul be welcome though - am I living under a false assumption about directions and satellites?

**Robbo** · 11-03-2009

Many of the satellites share the same transponder frequencies, so when you point to one sat and scan a different one on the receiver, when the transponder frequencies are common between the two, it will pick up channels when you scan. But the channels you get will be from the satellite your'e pointing at.

Check the channels you got, many of them will be the same ones.

ghinzani · 11-03-2009

Aha thanks - so I wont know for sure which way I am pointing until I get the satellite finder on it? Although as there were most channels on 19 east could I infer from that its pointing that way? If so neitehr of the analouge box's I plugged in picked anything up, although that might eb the box's at fault.

**Robbo** · 11-03-2009

You will be able to check for definite which sat it's pointing it.

Make a note of the channels you get and their frequency, and then cross reference against lyngsat's tables. Or look up the channels on kingofsat.

**Analoguesat** · 11-03-2009

Or list half a dozen channel names and we will tell you where you are pointing

**Robbo** · 11-03-2009

Originally Posted by Analoguesat

Or list half a dozen channel names and we will tell you where you are pointing

From memory in Analog's case.

ghinzani · 11-03-2009

Right chaps thanks for that offer. Heres whats on the one currently tuned in - Hellas39east
Ive put the channel numbers but I expect thats just the order the box has given them:
364 MATV National, 365 Wonderful, 350 Euronews, 339 DBN, 304 CNN
Ones with no signal - 001 TV PIK, 004 - RIK SA 009 - SKAT

That concludes the voting for the Greek judges, let me check 19E next!

ghinzani · 11-03-2009

Astra 19.2E

No signal ones first
48 NDR FS HH, 46 rbb Berlin, 42 WDR Koln, 40 Sudwest Ferns RP, 6 RTL2.

With signal
193 ITV1 Anglia s, 197 RTE One (scrambled), 209 CBBC Channel, 260 Rockworld, 269 Zone Horror, 302 Channel U.

Should I look at 28E now?

**mariust5** · 11-03-2009

you are on 28.2 east .

ghinzani · 11-03-2009

Originally Posted by mariust5

you are on 28.2 east .

Nutsacks! Ah well better move it then. Thanks very much for the sleuthing all!

ghinzani · 03-04-2009

All finally thanks to a friend and his Sat finder I have got on to 19 E and am recieving Analouge signals perfectly. Many thanks for all your help. I have English language Eurosport through the analouge reciever and what appears to be German language Eurosport through the digital receiver. Anyone know where I can get a schedule guide for them both? All I can find is British Eurosport...

**Analoguesat** · 03-04-2009

Nice one ghinzani. Well done mate - it takes some folks weeks to get this far!

ltkltkltk · 03-04-2009

Originally Posted by ghinzani

All finally thanks to a friend and his Sat finder I have got on to 19 E and am recieving Analouge signals perfectly. Many thanks for all your help. I have English language Eurosport through the analouge reciever and what appears to be German language Eurosport through the digital receiver. Anyone know where I can get a schedule guide for them both? All I can find is British Eurosport...

_http://www.tvtv.de/tvtv/index.vm?dayId=0&weekId=0&groupid=3&lang=de&epgVie w=list

German tv guide

Also RTL II has teletext with an epic tv guide on page 300 i think

ghinzani · 03-04-2009

Originally Posted by Analoguesat

Nice one ghinzani. Well done mate - it takes some folks weeks to get this far!

haha! yep well Ive been a bit busy is my excuse but now Im there - hurray! As Ive only got a single feed currently could I run one of those f-connector splitter things to feed the two boxes to save the cable swapping? Id probably not ever have both running at the same time, dont know if that would cause confusion for the lnb...

**Analoguesat** · 03-04-2009

Originally Posted by ghinzani

haha! yep well Ive been a bit busy is my excuse but now Im there - hurray! As Ive only got a single feed currently could I run one of those f-connector splitter things to feed the two boxes to save the cable swapping? Id probably not ever have both running at the same time, dont know if that would cause confusion for the lnb...

You can get A/B switch boxes from places like maplin for about a tenner - you just press the button when you want to change receiver

ghinzani · 04-04-2009

I was thinking something cheap like this?

Ebay

330318885630 Not recommended then?

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