PACE MSS 200 Settings - help please


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Old 02-09-2006   #1
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PACE MSS 200 Settings - help please

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Am trying to get Eurosport from one of the analogue satellites on a PACE MSS 200 receiver but unfortunately don't have a manual so don't know what certain settings should be. Could anybody help please?

The LNB is a UNIVERSAL GRUNDIG SINGLE OUTPUT LNB 9.75/10.60 GH L.O and has the following settings:

Input Low Band 10.7-11.7 GHz
Input High Band 11.7-12.75 GHz

LO.: Low Band 9.75 GHz, High Band 10.6 GHz
Output: Low Band 950 - 1950 MHz, High Band 1100-2150 MHz
Band switching: Low Band 0 KHz, High Band 22 KHz (whatever all that means). Says its suitable for both analogue and digital signals.

I am unsure about the following settings on the receiver:

LNB:

Ofsset: AFC, 0,1,2,etc.
LNB Power: On, Off
Positioner Pol.: On, Off
Dual Band LNB: No, Tone, Volt
LNB Low: 9.750 FSS A, 10.000 FSS B
LNB High: 10.750 DBS, 11.475 T-COM, ??.??? Var.

External AV:

Decoder Output: PAL, MAC, Clamped, FLAT
AV Source: Auto (goes fuzzy), DEC-V, DEC-AV

Tuning:

Band: Low, High
Satellite: 1,2,.....64
Tone: On, Off
Ext. Switch: On, Off


The TV is standard small portable connected to receiver by Scart.

Any help gratefully received.

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LNB:

Ofsset: AFC, 0,1,2,etc. Leave on 0
LNB Power: On, Off On
Positioner Pol.: On, Off Not applicable doesnt matter what you set.
Dual Band LNB: No, Tone, Volt You only need low band (11259V) so doesnt matter. If you want to set the box up 100% correctly for the lnb set to on
LNB Low: 9.750 FSS A, 10.000 FSS B
LNB High: 10.750 DBS, 11.475 T-COM, ??.??? Var. Change to 9750 / 10600


External AV:

Decoder Output: PAL, MAC, Clamped, FLAT
AV Source: Auto (goes fuzzy), DEC-V, DEC-AV
You wont be using a decoder so ignore this area
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My System: Various digiboxes, broken Nokia 9800S, numerous analogue boxes. My lovely little lappy, HP Omnibook 6100

Don't know for certain but unless anyone can suggest better my best guess would be to set it up as follows:

LNB:

Offset: AFC
LNB Power: On
Positioner Pol.: Off
Dual Band LNB: Tone
LNB Low: 9.750 FSS A,
LNB High: ??.??? Var. - set to 10.600

AV is irrelevent as there are no channels to decode

Tuning depends what channel you want to tune in to!

Band: Low, High - could be either, probably low
Satellite: 1,2,.....64 - These are your channel numbers, if you're only interested in one channel use the first.
Tone: On, Off - on for high band, off for low
Ext. Switch: On, Off - irrelevant, set to off

And then take it from there!
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My System: Old Sky 60cm dish, PACE MSS 200 receiver

Thanks for your help guys.

Have tried various settings with no luck.

Have tuned it into 11494H (ARD 1?) but all I'm getting is blue screen with No Signal.

If I leave it on 11494H and simply move the dish around in the general direction of 19 degrees east of South (once its stopped p*****g down) should it simply change to the ARD 1 channel when pointing the right way or do I need to do something to the receiver each time I change the dish direction.

Apologies if I seem a bit dumb. I'm new to all things satellite !!
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I assumed that your dish was already correctly aligned and that your problem was with receiver setup.

You're on the right track when you say that when the dish is pointing in the right direction something will appear on the TV. The receiver shoud need no further adjustment while you're doing this.

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My System: Old Sky 60cm dish, PACE MSS 200 receiver

Tried again this morning and getting zilch!

Can anybody tell me approx. how many degrees out I could be horizontally and vertically and still receive a weak but resolvable signal from Astra 19.2?
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No more than a couple of degrees. The dish face should be +/- vertical, and the dish should be pointing at "11 o'clock" if due south is 12 o'clock.

Try finding Kika on 10714H - thats about the strongest channel on 19E.
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My System: Old Sky 60cm dish, PACE MSS 200 receiver

This is sooooooooo frustrating!!!!!!!!

My wife is desparate to watch the US Open tennis on Eurosport and I cannot get a glimpse of a signal from any satellite.

Tried two LNBs (the old original one on the old Sky analogue dish plus a new universal one bought on Ebay ), two different cable runs between LNB and receiver, every combination of settings on the receiver, pointing the dish in every direction horizontally and vertically around the coordinates given, tried different points in the garden, tried standing on top on the step ladder holding the dish up high (and looking a real plonker! ), tried 10994H, 11494H, 11240V and tried frequency searching whilst moving the dish, all to no avail.

Coming to the conclusion that either a) the receiver is faulty despite the fact that it looks to be working and is passing power to the LNB or b) the 60cm sky dish is inadequate to receive the signal here in North Yorkshire in a garden surrounded by tall trees.

I'm rapidly running out of ideas. Only choices I can see now are to try and get hold of another receiver, to cart dish, receiver and TV to various other points in the garden to try (not hopeful about this one) or to dump the lot in the bin and forget the whole thing!
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If a tree is in the way, you will get nothing, you need clear line of site ot the satellite.
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My System: Old Sky 60cm dish, PACE MSS 200 receiver

25+ metres - huge they are! Will have to try elsewhere in the garden tomorrow where I might be able to get line of sight (will mean taking TV and receiver there as well with a long power extension lead - something I've not tried as yet due to wet weather).

Is this true of the sky digital minidishes also, as around the village there seem to be dishes pointing at brick walls a few metres away?
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My System: Old Sky 60cm dish, PACE MSS 200 receiver

Thanks for that guys ... will try one more time tomorrow.

Nothing ventured eh!
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