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My System: Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9 |
I cannot decode the BBC Prime signal today. I have the correct card inserted. Is it a BBC problem, or have I screwed up somewhere?? | ||
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01-02-2009
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My System: Home-Amstrad Sky Digi-box on 60cm dish. Bar - Pace Sky English Digi-box and Grundig Sky Eire Digi-box linked to a 2.4m Channel master dish with a single dual output LNB. Digibox for ART network on 90cm dish. Digibox for Digitalalb subscription. Di | Has it not moved to a different satellite ? | ||
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I would have suggested to open the teletext which is FTA, but they have stopped the transmission few weeks ago, except for the note that there is no teletext (which is good enough just to confirm that there is a channel) Also you can click the button to set which subtitle and see if there is any language selections. | |||
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02-02-2009
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My System: Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9 | Yes there is a channel. The Text page, saying there is no text still comes up... The move is not until March. | ||
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Check your subscription finish date. You may have a 12 month subscription, but I read few days ago that you need to use a hardware Viaccess CAM to get the correct validity of the card. The emulators will give you a much shorter validity. | |||
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02-02-2009
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My System: Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9 | The subscription is 12 months and only about 4 have elapsed......... Will try reloading the emulator, or a different one. | ||
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02-02-2009
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My System: Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9 | I have canned the Pli image on my cf card and totally re-installed the image on the HD, including scam. So all my changes have gone. Still cannot decode BBC Prime, so I conclude it is a BBC problem. Can anyone confirm this deduction?? | ||
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02-02-2009
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My System: Dreambox 7020si, Technomate TM600, Technomate TM9100 Fracarro Penta 85 Dish, Televes 0.6dB Quad lnb, TM SG2200 motor. 60cm Channel Master BSB dish on 28e, Mti Blueline 0.2db Twin Lnb. Rover ST-4 Meter Cyfra+ Subscription | As already stated even if it is a 12 month Viaccess 3.0 card you will need to put it into a genuine Viaccess cam to get it to update for the full 12 months. You will probably find you will need to do this 3 or 4 times in the 12 month period. I had the same problem with my JSC Sports card  It was cheaper for me to sell the card than buy a new cam  Nano | ||
 Sanity is nothing more than an excuse to be boring <<<<<<<<****** Dreambox DM7020 Si , S.I.F 1.9.3d ******>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<******** Technomate TM9100, EDG 4.4 ******** >>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<******* Technomate TM600, UR 23 *******>>>>>>>>> | |||
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My System: 3m(sky),1.8m(astr/hotbird),1m (nilesat)1m(arabsat)diseqc 4,sky plus,humax freesat,visionet 8000s,technomate 5400 ci+ usb super. Satlook nit colour + Horizon hdsm. wii  | Apparently BBC refresh their subscription cards at the beginning of every month and "patched" receivers can't update so the card has to be in latest version viaccess cam or receiver with embedded viaccess. I checked someones' bbc prime card just today and it worked in an x-cruiser receiver, after being out of a receiver since Friday. I thought a JSC sports card was a countdown card and once activated will continue for 12 months? | ||
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03-02-2009
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My System: Dreambox 7020si, Technomate TM600, Technomate TM9100 Fracarro Penta 85 Dish, Televes 0.6dB Quad lnb, TM SG2200 motor. 60cm Channel Master BSB dish on 28e, Mti Blueline 0.2db Twin Lnb. Rover ST-4 Meter Cyfra+ Subscription | So did i. It still requires to be put into an official Viaccess cam to get the 12 months out of it though. My Dreambox only saw it in 4 month periods . Every time it was put into a viaccess cam it updated to 4 months again  | ||
| Sanity is nothing more than an excuse to be boring <<<<<<<<****** Dreambox DM7020 Si , S.I.F 1.9.3d ******>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<******** Technomate TM9100, EDG 4.4 ******** >>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<******* Technomate TM600, UR 23 *******>>>>>>>>> | |||
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My System: Gibertini OP120 + Inverto Black Premium Twin @ 28.2E | In which Satellites is BBC Prime available? Is this the one that has Formula 1 and MotoGP coverage for the 2009? Thank you. | ||
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My System: Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9 | Currently BBC Prime is on Hotbird at 13E, but moving to Eurobird 9E in March. Hotbird does handle Aljezeera Sport, with F1, not sure about MotoGP | ||
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My System: Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9 |
My old Starsat box only had softcams.  | |||
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My System: Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9 | Checking prices a Viaccess CAM costs almost as much as a subscription to BBC Prime for a year........  | ||
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http://www.satellites.co.uk/index.php?page=sponsors | |||
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04-02-2009
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My System: Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9 | I have checked out the sponsors and am not impressed. HDTV is the only one that lists the Red Viaccess CAM. When I fill in the details for an order, there is NO rebate of VAT. Cost 46 pounds plus 35 shipping, to say nothing of clearance here........ Way too expensive. More than a years sub for BBC Prime | ||
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In the comments or customer's note, request VAT deduction. Use Standard EU delivery at 7.5 GBP http://www.sateuropa.co.uk/overview....id=10&subcat=6 They might give you a hard time with payment by credit card, depending on your location. But check first if BBC Prime new encryption can be opened using the Red Viaccess CAM. | |||
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My System: Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9 | The old BBC prime used Viaccess 2.5, the new signal will be Viaccess 4.0. Will the same CAM work?? | ||
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My System: Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9 |
Most of the receivers here are purely softcam, no cards.  | |||
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My System: Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9 | Googling around I cannot see any references to Viaccess 4.0, only Viaccess with MGEG 4. Not quite the same thing............. Has anyone seen 4.0 before, or is it just the BBC who does not know what they are doing???? | ||
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05-02-2009
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Blog Entries: 1 My System: Sky UK. FTA analogue & digital satellite from 6 fixed dishes (5E/7E/9E/10E/13E/16E/ 19E/23E/28E) Pace MSS100, Echostar IP3000VA, Technomate TM-1000D, Dreambox 7020S  The last noble sat warrior to fly the olden flag of Analogue | BBC Prime now reported to be on 9E in Viaccess 3.0 11996V | ||
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My System: Dreambox 7020si, Technomate TM600, Technomate TM9100 Fracarro Penta 85 Dish, Televes 0.6dB Quad lnb, TM SG2200 motor. 60cm Channel Master BSB dish on 28e, Mti Blueline 0.2db Twin Lnb. Rover ST-4 Meter Cyfra+ Subscription | According to my usual card supplier the only reason it doesn't update correctly in a softcam is Viacess trying to stop card sharing Can't see that one working | ||
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My System: Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9 |
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| Just wondering if one can get a refund for the remaining subscription period as a result of this move. Isn't it a breach of contract to change the satellite and to ask subscribers to "just move your dish to 9E"? After all, at the time of signing the contract, one puts his faith that the service is transmitted from a certain satellite and not from any other satellite that the provider may choose within the subscription period. Also, are they offering any compensation or extra viewing period, just to make subscribers happy? Quite honestly, if this happened to me, I would cancel my subscription and demand a refund. After all, the channel's content is just a continuous repeat of what they have shown all the past few years, with the occasional "new" title. Just to hear English language in the background is simply not worth it. | ||
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