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15-12-2008
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Hi , If it is recommnded to plug in the AC\DC transformer to my Lap top in the time I am using it .OR. to use my Lap Top using the battary only and recharge when it needed to be recharged > thanx | ||
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15-12-2008
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| Super Moderator  Real name: Paul Join Date: 07-05-2007 Location: South Midlands, UK & Lanzarote, Canary Islands
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My System: Zone1, DSI8215 SkyHD, Thomson DSI4214, TF5000CI, Dreambox DM800 HD PVR - Nab BH0.12, TM-5200D, Gibertini 104cm, SNH-031, 36v Actuator, Vbox-II, 42°E to 30°W, Sling Media, Televes H45 Digital Processing Analyser, Satlook Micro+G2 NIT, Rover SDM 1s | In order to maintain the general life of the battery, charge it up and let it run down by using the laptop on battery power, then recharge again. | ||
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15-12-2008
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| Believe it when I see it Admin.  Real name: Rolf Join Date: 01-05-1999 Location: Southern England
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Blog Entries: 5 My System: Pace Sky HD, DM7000s, CubeRevo 3000HDPVR, Transparent 80cm Dish, Moteck SG2100 DiseqC motor, lots of legacy gear. Meters: Satlook Digital NIT, Televes H45 Digital Spectrum analyser. | Yes, I've knackered both of my batteries by leaving the thing plugged in when using it, neither of them hold a charge now. | ||
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15-12-2008
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| Mod and septic resident  Join Date: 01-01-2000 Location: London SW
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| Whilst the general rule for recharegeable NiCad batteries is to let them discharge completely, I thought that Lithium ion batteries had no 'memory' that caused them trouble if kept fully charged. You learn something every day. | ||
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| Amo Amas Amant Admin  Join Date: 18-11-2004 Location: Blackburn NW England (Siberia)
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My System: IDD CI24 ECONO MM Penta 1.20 Galaxy II 1.2Mtr Polar MTG yes it has been on the arc for 21 years and is still driven by a modified wiper motor from a Ford Anglia. It's like me sometimes groans but always performs  Saved us from the black plague of ignoratio elenchi, he awaits a special badge with jugs |
Me too CH I was under the impression that the LI batteries were developed to overcome that very problem indeed mine has been OK for the last 18 months and is always connected unless out and about. Still has 1.5 hrs running time capacity. | |||
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Thank you all But, find attached a copy of the message which i just received from DELL TECHNICAL SUPPORT concerning the same question ((Other than to re-charge it, it's actually advisable to remove the battery if you primarily use the AC adapter )) What do you think ?? | ||
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| Amo Amas Amant Admin Join Date: 18-11-2004 Location: Blackburn NW England (Siberia)
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My System: IDD CI24 ECONO MM Penta 1.20 Galaxy II 1.2Mtr Polar MTG yes it has been on the arc for 21 years and is still driven by a modified wiper motor from a Ford Anglia. It's like me sometimes groans but always performs Saved us from the black plague of ignoratio elenchi, he awaits a special badge with jugs |
Yes I would agree if it is hardly ever used outside the house, especially with a Dell, they have been known to burst into flames before now in 2006 and 2007  _http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1526424/Exploding-laptops-prompt-Dell-battery-recall.html _http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/05/18/223974/dell-laptop-battery-recall-the-expert-view.htm | |||
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My System: Various digiboxes, broken Nokia 9800S, numerous analogue boxes. My lovely little lappy, HP Omnibook 6100 |
On my Toshiba laptop I take the battery out whenever I'm running off the PSU (such as right now!). This is the best method as a Lion battery has a limited number of charge/discharge cycles and should be used only when truly off the mains power to extend its life. The disadvantage is that if I accidentally move the small DC power plug on the back of the laptop I can lose everything in a moment! | |||
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| Super Moderator Real name: Paul Join Date: 07-05-2007 Location: South Midlands, UK & Lanzarote, Canary Islands
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Strip her down sounds good to me, lol  I managed to get an old laptop going by soldering the dc connector as it started to get loose. | |||
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17-12-2008
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My System: 1200cc with 100,000,000,000 neurons and 100,000,000,000,000 connections | As Paul says Li-Ion batteries have quite a limited number of charge/discharge cycles - probably around 500, so if you do discharge and recharge to try and preserve battery life then once a week is probably better than once a day. I've read many places saying discharging to 40% then rechargning is better than a full discharge - don't know if this is true. I'm not sure anyone actually knows  | ||
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17-12-2008
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| Amo Amas Amant Admin Join Date: 18-11-2004 Location: Blackburn NW England (Siberia)
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My System: IDD CI24 ECONO MM Penta 1.20 Galaxy II 1.2Mtr Polar MTG yes it has been on the arc for 21 years and is still driven by a modified wiper motor from a Ford Anglia. It's like me sometimes groans but always performs Saved us from the black plague of ignoratio elenchi, he awaits a special badge with jugs |
Some interesting articles if you look for them, Li-On batteries do not suffer from the memory effect but as mention have a limitation on the number of recharge cycles, it seems somebody has managed to design something that is worse than the originals and get away with it. _http://ezinearticles.com/?Take-Care-Of-Your-Li-On-Battery&id=423379 | ||
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21-12-2008
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My System: Various digiboxes, broken Nokia 9800S, numerous analogue boxes. My lovely little lappy, HP Omnibook 6100 |
I have several soldering irons but that's not the problem on the Tosh (although it is on the HP - which is another story!) , it's just when rotating the DC plug it obviously skips slightly and causes the problem. Simple solution - I leave the DC lead looped over the top corner of the screen so it doesn't move around. Incidentally, and completely off topic, I've just bought another laptop. I bought it for the software and hardware that came with it. It's an old Advent with Lexia software and EOBD plug and adaptor to plug into my Citroens and read the on-board ECUs. I can also change and write to them so I should be able to completely bugger the cars up. I've already managed to disassociate one of the ignition keys on the Xsara so that it's not recognised any more... | |||
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