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Old 17-04-2003   #1
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i HAVE A GEMPLUS CAM AND FUN 4 CARD, IS IT SIMPLY THE CASE TO FIND A WORKING FILE STICK IT IN THE RECEIVER AND HEY PRESTO!

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what kind of receiver, and what firmware have you got loaded in it (original, or patched?)?
Do you have any other types of CI CAM?
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Hi
I have a manhatten dsr 5500 original firmware along with a irdeto4.7se cam.
I especially want to view polsat channels,and also is it neccessary to use fun 4 cards rather than straight forward fun cards.
Richard.

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A "FreeCAM2" will work with a standard funcard suitably loaded with the 6-n-1 files to give access to Nagravision. A funcard will not however work in your Gemplus Nagra CAM.

If your Irdeto CAM is indeed a 4.7SE then it means it must already have been reprogrammed by a hobbyist or satellite dealer, since no CAM was ever originally shipped with that firmware. So it should be reprogammable again, to a FreeCAM2.
Please check the part number on the back and cross-check it here to verify that:
http://www.satellites.co.uk/php-bin/...&threadid=1674
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Hello again.
I don't really want to mess about with the Irdeto cam as it was very expensive and I'm not to clued up on patching or flashing cams,when you say a funcard won't work with the gemplus cam are you saying that a funcard4 won't work either,basically should a funcard4 work with the cam given the right files.
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The only files that I've seen for the Nagra CAM are for gold cards Richard. If you have a Windows 98 loaded laptop, flashing a CAM is quite easy, but if you are not confident, then you are probably right to leave it alone.

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Many thanks,I'll have a look for these files.
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Win95 also works for flashing the CAM. But not all laptops work. I use a Toshiba Tecra with win95 and it works every time. It's definitely worth flashing the CAM to a FreeCAM2 since it will then handle 6 different encryption systems rather than just 2 (Irdeto & Betacrypt). And you can use it in any patched or unpatched CI receiver.

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I think hes on about the Auto-updateing files (on the Dudez) for a fun4/gemplus /nagra setup, but he will need to find the cam box key to use these, (and i aint got a gemplus so i dont know how)
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Is it possible to watch hispasat30° channels with progdvb or multidec 9.x, can i use softcam_key for this.
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Yes you can, it is part of the six in one file. All you need is hex to MD converter, see the downloads section at the top of the page.

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Originally Posted by 2old4this
Win95 also works for flashing the CAM. But not all laptops work. I use a Toshiba Tecra with win95 and it works every time. It's definitely worth flashing the CAM to a FreeCAM2 since it will then handle 6 different encryption systems rather than just 2 (Irdeto & Betacrypt). And you can use it in any patched or unpatched CI receiver.

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I am very intrested in flashing my irdeto cam, could you explain to me the process involved and what bits and bobs I need to do this or perhaps a link to where I might get this info.
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P.S. Why do I need a laptop?

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Hi Richard, you need a laptop, because you sit the CAM in the PCMCIA slot. What version is your Irdeto CAM, it will only work with the older ones.

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Originally Posted by rolfw
Hi Richard, you need a laptop, because you sit the CAM in the PCMCIA slot. What version is your Irdeto CAM, it will only work with the older ones.
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It's a 4.7 se.

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The gemplus cannot be updated by any means but a special loader that is not public.
And i don't believe there is any patches for this CAM to make it work in other encryptions,as far as i know.
If you know,please post,as i have one and I had to pull out the tsop to read the boxkeys,but i would be glad to find out if there is a patch for it.
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