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Old 28-12-2008   #1
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My System: Topfield TF6000PVR Wireless with motorised dish. Laptop running Vista.
Probelms with receiving Hellas sat and others.

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Earlier this year I had an 80 cm motorised dish installed along with a Topfield TF6000PVR Wireless PVR. It's set up the receiver to use USALS. All was well then one day I could not watch anything on Hellas sat 39.0 E. At the time I was still setting up the satellites I wanted so I thought I had messed it up. When I rescanned I picked up a total of 0 TV and 0 radio channels. I've not had a chance to look at it until last week. The signal level as shown on the PVR is about 72% -76% which seems to be the norm here (Chesterfield) but the quality varies. On 11099 / V /1478 and 11140 / V / 1425 the quality is 99%. On all other transponders the quality is 0 however some of them will flicker to maybe 5 - 10%. If I scan now I sometimes pickup a total of 2 channels. ReformTV on 11099 / V /1478 and Pgm1 on 11140 / V / 1425. Other satellites at 28.5 E and to the west of that are fine. Anything to the east has problems. Eurobird 3 33.0 E is 0 quality on all transponders except 11596 / V / 27500 which is 69% on quality. A scan finds no channels. On Eutelsat W4 36 E it's 0 quality on 0 channels on scan. I don't know if I have a setup problem or if there is something that I can't see blocking or interfering with the signal. Sorry this is long winded but I wanted to include as much info as I could.I hope someone will be able to point me in tyhe right direction to solve this.

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In all probability you have suffered from a very small mechanical misalignment induced by either strong winds and/or inadequately tightened bolts and clamps.

At best your Dish may have slipped a bit around the Motor stub.

At worst, but also easily resolved, your Mount may have gone a tiny bit out of true. This has happened to me (and I reckon I'm not alone ............) as the result of insufficiently torqued nuts on the V clamps between T&K brackets and pole. As the "holes" in the brackets are slotted, a soupçon of slippage occurred (The pole tipped forward) and Satellites towards the end of the Arc disappeared.

5 minutes with a spirit level and self-grip wench sorted that out.

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My System: Humax 5400irc 80cm Dish Invacom 0.3 LNB ToH 3.3 5.7. P4 Xp home 3.2 pro.

Hi StewartT,

I have your problemat Hellas 39e. I had my system installed by a Sat Installer
and still no joy with 39e.
my problem seems to be, when the Motor stops a 39e, the 80cm dishes
plain is 10 to 15% looking down. check your Dish and see if its Vertical
or is it up or down.
I know 30w is a low satellite the dish has to be Vertical to pull in 30w.

About you Signal quality, it may to your LNBs Scew.
I just moved a Zone 1 S*y dish to (1w and Thor 0.8w) the Sig Quality
on Thor was between (32% and 65%). I rememberd about S*ys LNB
being at 15% Scew to the Left as you look at the Dish.
Turned the LNB to just about Vertical with the 35cm Dish, and the
Thor Sig quality shot up to ( 61% and 81%).
The same with Digitv @ 1w Sig Quality was (17%) on DigiFilm 1, Tweeked
the LNB and digiFilm 1 shop up to 31%. now pull in all 450 Open
Channels on Thor and Intelsat with a Zone 1, 35cm Dish.
More than 70 Film cannels, and never miss a match.

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It might be worth checking if the driver cog in the motor has play on the arc at that point. I have seen a few of the cheaper motors with nylon cogs, and on one from a well known branded supplier, thrust bearings made out of plastic.

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39e & 42e are easily receivable, sounds like your not tracking the arc on the far East. Might be worth sending your dish back to reference and checking dish alignment.

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My System: Topfield TF6000PVR Wireless with motorised dish. Laptop running Vista.

Thanks for the advice and to all the others who took the time to reply. I'll get the dish checked out soonest.

Thanks again for the advice.
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