yous must be sick of all these questions

father ted · 05-07-2008

hi ive read all the tuts and downloaded all the files and seen all the utube movies on how to set up a motorised dish ,and hey am enjoying it still ,but have never managed to get anything apart from 28.2, i set up at first an"L"shaped bracket and stuck it on my old s*y location,i didnt think i was getting a good reception so i changed it to t&k bracket ,mouted it above the roof and made sure it was plumb on all sides ,set dish and motor to all the settings and started to play around ,lol its been 2 weeks now and all ive manged to get is 28.2 ive moved it this way and that and still no results with any other satalites

how do you guys do it

anyway any advice would be much apreciated

**Mickha** · 05-07-2008

Hi father ted,

it would help a great deal if you could please provide us with a lot more information.
Size/Make of Dish.
Make/Model of Motor.
Make/Model of your receiver.
What method have you used to set up your motor?
It would also make it easier if you updated your profile, to include a little of this information, especially what receiver you have.

father ted · 05-07-2008

really soz about that its a Moteck 2100a diseqc motor with a 1 meter dish (mesh)the system i have is called openmedia(it does say this in my profile,maybe yous dont know this system lol) it is a twin tuner system based on 500 dreambox it has one tuner for cable and one for sat(can i say that lol)it has a pli ilolite image on it .i set my motor using multimap co-ordinates which is 56 north 3.7 west ,i have been able to get only as i say 28.2 nothing else,im here to learn so if i can tell yous anymore that will help feel free ,i must be getting addicted to climbing ladders

cause i can see your gonna send me back up them,not tonite please am nite shift

**Topper** · 05-07-2008

Welcome to the forum father ted

Well you thought you had got away with it but you have not, back up those ladders right this minute... Oh OK then it has gone dark... good job you do not live in Iceland

The reason you have only got 28.2 East is because you forgot to fit the motor

Oh Ok then, try to imagine an arc in the sky this arc runs from 60 East to 60 West approximately. Ok now as you are based in the UK Your due south satellite is more than likely 1 deg West or 5 Deg West, take your pick but 5 deg West probably is better for you, whichever you choose that is your due south satellite. Therefore the top of the arc of satellites that you can see is either one of the two. There having settled on either one or the other, within your stb that is your zero degrees, now you need to loosen the mast clamps and swing the whole motor assembly round to zero degrees and clamp it. That is the top of the arc where your lnb is vertical and any other position either side is lower as it is further around the arc. From then you should be able to use Disecq or Usals to move forward and find other satellites.

father ted · 05-07-2008

ok came off nite shift and went back up to have a wee look lol anyway yous know am having problems not only with the dish but understanding all this new talk (but am getting there)well at this moment i only have 28.2 but when i went to check where the motor dial was, it said 5 deg east?now surely that aint rite?i sent motor far west then to zero then to far east then to zero again i then reset motor to zero again and then went to menu and goto fuction which was 28.2 and again it went to it and bbc1 came on (by the way its a gr8 picture lol)went up ladder again and it said 5 deg east?these are some pictures of how its on at the moment

**gerryl** · 05-07-2008

strange ye can find 28!...try reset...

Lat set on motor 'ok!'
Motor set to zero
Dish set to zero (approx 40)
Lnb (no skew)
Face the lot 'true south' forget tring to aim at any sats!

go to stb and use yer remote select Thor 1 or 5 west FTA channel...motor will move look at the signal..then back up the ladder and tilt the dish 'few' degrees vertically upward to see any gain, try any other sat and slowly adjust the dish tilt if no further gain tight-up (sat meter would help...save all the dish tilts) hope this helps

M8...just spotted yer prob!....Lat 56...yer Motor should be set at 34...see table at back of 2100a Manual

**gerryl** · 05-07-2008

don't give up....

...Dish Pointer (.com...do a google) will help with Lat...and show ye where all the sats are...!

**rolfw** · 05-07-2008

Yes I agree, the latitude scale is on the other side of the motor (Moteck motors have both scales), the latitude has been set on the elevation scale by mistake.

It concerns me also that you say you can only get 28.2 East, is that when moving the motor with the receiver? If it is, then you have missed out the most vital step and that is finding your nearest to due South satellite.

**satelliteman** · 05-07-2008

A common mistake done by many...... including myself by rushing

...........

Don't forget the read the guides & tutorials and you'll crack it

Dogs · 05-07-2008

Hi m8...its frustrating but worth it in the end.....did mine yesterday ...possibly 5 hours in total...check out the link...hope its of help

My story here

father ted · 05-07-2008

Originally Posted by rolfw

Yes I agree, the latitude scale is on the other side of the motor (Moteck motors have both scales), the latitude has been set on the elevation scale by mistake.

It concerns me also that you say you can only get 28.2 East, is that when moving the motor with the receiver? If it is, then you have missed out the most vital step and that is finding your nearest to due South satellite.

Originally Posted by gerryl

strange ye can find 28!...try reset...

Lat set on motor 'ok!'
Motor set to zero
Dish set to zero (approx 40)
Lnb (no skew)
Face the lot 'true south' forget tring to aim at any sats!

go to stb and use yer remote select Thor 1 or 5 west FTA channel...motor will move look at the signal..then back up the ladder and tilt the dish 'few' degrees vertically upward to see any gain, try any other sat and slowly adjust the dish tilt if no further gain tight-up (sat meter would help...save all the dish tilts) hope this helps

M8...just spotted yer prob!....Lat 56...yer Motor should be set at 34...see table at back of 2100a Manual

yep got that part and now i changed it , i stil only get 28.2 and its still reading 5 deg and i know it should be 28 deg east lol , this is what i done
1 made sure that the dish,motor was all in line
2 i found south on a compass and turned the whole thing ,motor,dish on the pole to south(or near enuff)
3 i looked for thor and asked dish to goto thor and it traveled slightly one way then onto what i assumed was 1.0 west(am i right?)
5 tried to get a good signal on a meter manged to get it to go to about 9 on the scale ,and to about 10 while tilting the dish up and down (isnt that good?)
6 went back in to check signal on box and all i could get was and agc of 99% a ber of 100-500 and a snr of only 60%
7 am now thinking it mite be hardware fault or i mite still not be lined up properly (lol which doesnt surprise me )
8 i have tried numerous images and all the same readings or near enuff............................................. .................................................. ...........
ooooh forgot to say i still have 28.2

**satelliteman** · 05-07-2008

A picture of the dish/motor on zero might help.

Have you done as the guide suggests?

**gerryl** · 05-07-2008

what setting are in yer stb...can you upload new motor channel list!...from another source.

cause if you followed the above ye should be runnin...looks like yer getting 28 by pure error!...keep going its not dark yet

father ted · 05-07-2008

Originally Posted by satelliteman

A picture of the dish/motor on zero might help.

Have you done as the guide suggests?

yep will get on 2 morrow for yous am on nite shift at the moment and im hopingive done everything as the guide suggest also have been getting good info and am folloing it on here too

Originally Posted by gerryl

what setting are in yer stb...can you upload new motor channel list!...from another source.

cause if you followed the above ye should be runnin...looks like yer getting 28 by pure error!...keep going its not dark yet

not sure if i can ? can you give me a clue where i mite get this?,mite not be dark but am on 12 hrs nite shift

**gerryl** · 05-07-2008

OpenMedia is Linux receiver comes pre loaded with a custom free-to-air neutrino or enigma image, you should be able to FTP channel motor list such as pet123...also much much more...please be careful where ye source yer images and 'other' files!...and make sure they are tested for OpenMedia as some image are generated for ONLY certain versions of Dreambox !

father ted · 05-07-2008

Originally Posted by gerryl

OpenMedia is Linux receiver comes pre loaded with a custom free-to-air neutrino or enigma image, you should be able to FTP channel motor list such as pet123...also much much more...please be careful where ye source yer images and 'other' files!...and make sure they are tested for OpenMedia as some image are generated for ONLY certain versions of Dreambox !

ooh yes i know what you mean now

thot it was something else you were talking about ,yep quite understand i have capt picard settings in there is that ok

**gerryl** · 05-07-2008

don't know ye STB...but give pet123 a try at yer own risk!

father ted · 06-07-2008

rite back again ok no further forward have carried out everything yous have been saying
1 have now placed the whole dish on new t&kbrackets rite up to the gutter ,in fact is so far up it can swing right round without touching the roof.i was thinking that it was getting a weak signal
2 i placed a new pole ,2 inch scaffolding pole on the brackets
3 i managed (dont ask how) to get the dish, motor onto the pole ,by the way its plumb on all sides i even ran a plumb line to the floor and its spot on
4i lined the dish,motor and pole so that they were all in line and the back of dish was paralel to the rest
5i bought a new compass and made sure i found south
6 turned the whole thing around pole ,the dish, motor until it reached a mark i had done and checked with compass to south
7 i left it loose so could jiggle with it
8 took out meter and played with dish till i got a good signal on south reached almost 10 and tightened it up a bit keeping an eye on meter didnt go to far below 10
9 then i started to play with elevation of dish,manged to get it to 9 after a few tweaks here and there and tightend that up
10 went to box and tried one tweak to east ,then another and so on but nothing
11 then i did the opposite way so i turned it 10 times east so i done 20 times west still nothing
12i couldnt get the snr to raise above 60% so now am thinking problem with box
13 but i did get 28.2
14 never picked up any other sat and am thinking its a hardware fault(box its self) wot yous think?have i done all i can??
15 my mrs is serving my meals through the bathroom window casue am up the ladder more than am in the house

**rolfw** · 06-07-2008

When you found what you thought was thor, did you then scan it on the receiver to check that it was?

**satelliteman** · 06-07-2008

OK up to point 7, then you should come down and send the motor to your reference sat and then align on that. If using 1W 11325h

You are almost there and think the problem may be your not finding your ref satellite.... the most important part of the installation. No need to nudge the motor East or west once you are on your ref satellite, just scan and see. We will get you there

father ted · 06-07-2008

Originally Posted by rolfw

When you found what you thought was thor, did you then scan it on the receiver to check that it was?

ahh have to admit no i didnt ,when i looked at the signal strength it was a bit low maybe 65 was i wrong??

Originally Posted by satelliteman

OK up to point 7, then you should come down and send the motor to your reference sat and then align on that. If using 1W 11325h

You are almost there and think the problem may be your not finding your ref satellite.... the most important part of the installation. No need to nudge the motor East or west once you are on your ref satellite, just scan and see. We will get you there

hehe i think am a glutton for punishment

but ill keep trying picking up so much good advice and tips thanks to all

father ted · 10-07-2008

ok ive been at this for a while now and still no joy lol but am loving the tips am getting soon ill get there and ill wonder what all the fuss was about ,question! i went to my mates the other day and he has a dish up and working but his motor is the opposite to mine ?is my motor up the wrong way?????see picture?

**rolfw** · 10-07-2008

No, your motor is the right way up, but your dish looks way to high in elevation.

**satelliteman** · 10-07-2008

Agree, exactly what I thought when I looked at it re the El.

Your mate most probably has a stab motor of which is the other way round. The F connections should always be facing underneath OR down