No or BAD Signal...

**ash213** · 23-08-2008

Set up dish and LNB , hooked it up to my box but on my box it says 'No or Bad signal'

At the bottom it says 23%....does this mean it is semi hooked up alright ?

Hopefully......

Im trying to get Astra 28E

I think im pointing it in the right direction.......What can i do now ?

Thanks guys..

**satelliteman** · 23-08-2008

Morning, somehow, I've been waiting for this thread, lol.....

Take these easy steps and it will work.

> Get yourself a compass
> Point the dish to a rough 143°
> Set the dish elevation to a rough 24º although this may not be accurate on the bracket
> Stand in front the dish looking at it and turn the LNb a fraction so the F connector is at a 7'0Clock position.
> Use and in-line meter and move the dish in small movements until it peaks
> OR use the receiver to align the dish by signal screen ( use Tp 10.714h)
> If you find a signal on the meter, scan this Tp 10.714h, 22000, 5/6 (Channel 4)
> If you scan this transponder and get the above.... your on 28E.

SM

**ash213** · 23-08-2008

Originally Posted by satelliteman

Morning, somehow, I've been waiting for this thread, lol.....

Take these easy steps and it will work.

> Get yourself a compass
> Point the dish to a rough 143°
> Set the dish elevation to a rough 24º although this may not be accurate on the bracket
> Stand in front the dish looking at it and turn the LNb a fraction so the F connector is at a 7'0Clock position.
> Use and in-line meter and move the dish in small movements until it peaks
> OR use the receiver to align the dish by signal screen ( use Tp 10.714h)
> If you find a signal on the meter, scan this Tp 10.714h, 22000, 5/6 (Channel 4)
> If you scan this transponder and get the above.... your on 28E.

SM

Sorry what does this mean ?

> Use and in-line meter and move the dish in small movements until it peaks
> OR use the receiver to align the dish by signal screen ( use Tp 10.714h)

In addition.....Im currently looking at my satellite set up page..on level its going up and down like crazy from around 30% to 100% constantly and the quality is around 23%.
Do i have to change any of the settings on the satellite set up page like LNQ frequency or type ?etccc

**satelliteman** · 23-08-2008

what receiver you got?

**ash213** · 23-08-2008

Originally Posted by satelliteman

what receiver you got?

technomate 5400 ci+ usb

**satelliteman** · 23-08-2008

Get your self a long extension lead, and take a portable TV out to the garden.

Go to > Installations > satellite set up > Select 28e / Astra 2> Go down and select Tp 10.714h on the receiver.

When you move the dish, you can see the signal / quality levels go up.

When the levels go up, press RED

Tighten up when happy.

**ash213** · 23-08-2008

Originally Posted by satelliteman

Get your self a long extension lead, and take a portable TV out to the garden.

Go to > Installations > satellite set up > Select 28e / Astra 2> Go down and select Tp 10.714h on the receiver.

When you move the dish, you can see the signal / quality levels go up.

When the levels go up, press RED

Tighten up when happy.

OK i'll do this.

When you say move the dish, do you mean move the degree's of what its on at the mo ?

**Topper** · 23-08-2008

Originally Posted by ash213

OK i'll do this.

When you say move the dish, do you mean move the degree's of what its on at the mo ?

He means rotational adjustment and or the angle the dish makes with vertical, your dish should look similar to this, almost vertical

**ash213** · 23-08-2008

Originally Posted by Topper

He means rotational adjustment and or the angle the dish makes with vertical, your dish should look similar to this, almost vertical

Could you help me out with how i would do such a thing ?

Thanks

**Mickha** · 23-08-2008

Loosen the bolts, on the dish, just enough so that you can gently move it, side to side and up and down, then while able to view your portable television slightly move the dish until you get the strongest signal, then tighten up the bolts.

markjones · 23-08-2008

im not getting loads of channels on astra 28.2 got signal as high as i can do i have to adjust lnb to about 7 oclock then cheers

**ash213** · 23-08-2008

Originally Posted by Mickha

Loosen the bolts, on the dish, just enough so that you can gently move it, side to side and up and down, then while able to view your portable television slightly move the dish until you get the strongest signal, then tighten up the bolts.

Thanks, ill try this soon.

In addition how do u adjust the lnb ?

as it is secured , i cant really twist it, etc

**Mickha** · 23-08-2008

Loosen the bolt around the collar. at the end of the arm, that holds the LNB in place, then twist it and re-tighten the bolt.

**ash213** · 23-08-2008

just to let you know i havent sorted it yet as havent had a chance but here is a pic of the dish !

**satelliteman** · 23-08-2008

The real test will be after we've had +60Mph winds, lol

**ash213** · 24-08-2008

I seem to have sorted out the 'Level' - its stable on 87% but the quality is only 23% and when i search its not picking any channels up.

What shall i do now ? Does this mean its not facing the right direction, etc..

**Mickha** · 24-08-2008

Ignore the level, get the quality up and scan some channels in, then we will know if you're on the right satellite.

**ash213** · 24-08-2008

Originally Posted by Mickha

Ignore the level, get the quality up and scan some channels in, then we will know if you're on the right satellite.

How do i go about getting the 'Quality' up ?

**Mickha** · 24-08-2008

By gently moving the dish. Seeing as you're having all these problems I'd first check your cable connections are correct, even doing them again to make sure.
It just takes time, and patience, to gently nudge the dish to get a signal.
What transponder are you using to locate the signal ? Try 10788 V 22000 they are BBC 1 FTA channels.
Why are you trying to get Astra 2, 28.2E with your receiver? Your receiver is patchable and you would get far more viewing choice from Astra 1, 19.2E or Thor 1W, including live football, films and entertainment channels.

***pedro2000uk*** · 24-08-2008

That dish actually looks very good but please make it far more solid before it blows over and you buckle the dish. That slab is a bit too small and you need to weight it down a lot more and ideally make sure it's on more solid ground. To reduce stresses you could lower the dish a bit for now if you can still see the satellite you want. You could use the T bracket to support it higher up... off that fence if it's solid &/or bolt it all to a bigger slab.. 3x2 etc..
That Silvercrest dish is quite light weight but it's when the wind blows as sat man says.. it acts as a sail and the leverage down to that small slab base can be substantial.. We used a larger slab and a very large plastic plant pot loosely filled with rocks, filled up with water (and topped with plants for looks and trelis up the pole) with the bottom leg of the K under the dish and the plant pot covering it. It was solid and looked good.

**ash213** · 24-08-2008

Originally Posted by pedro2000uk

That dish actually looks very good but please make it far more solid before it blows over and you buckle the dish. That slab is a bit too small and you need to weight it down a lot more and ideally make sure it's on more solid ground. To reduce stresses you could lower the dish a bit for now if you can still see the satellite you want. You could use the T bracket to support it higher up... off that fence if it's solid &/or bolt it all to a bigger slab.. 3x2 etc..
That Silvercrest dish is quite light weight but it's when the wind blows as sat man says.. it acts as a sail and the leverage down to that small slab base can be substantial.. We used a larger slab and a very large plastic plant pot loosely filled with rocks, filled up with water (and topped with plants for looks and trelis up the pole) with the bottom leg of the K under the dish and the plant pot covering it. It was solid and looked good.

Thanks for the advice.

I will do what you said once i have sorted out the satellite and found what im looking for !

Im going for 19.2E now........ All cables seem to be fine and tight,,,,,,,,BUT now the bloody level is going crazy again

and still only 23% quality

***pedro2000uk*** · 24-08-2008

With it switched off** Check the inside of all your f connectors for a tiny stray copper wire crossing to the middle. (always switch off before touching f connectors)

**ash213** · 24-08-2008

Originally Posted by pedro2000uk

With it switched off** Check the inside of all your f connectors for a tiny stray copper wire crossing to the middle. (always switch off before touching f connectors)

What should i do if there is a 'tiny stray copper wire' ?

**ash213** · 24-08-2008

Right im getting 66% quality now.....did a search on 19.2E and it found about 21 channels (lol)

When i go on the list there is about 400 channels though so i don't even kow which ones work, although one did appear to work then i cant find it again...it was a music channel. It also found a channel called Galaxie Sport , if that helps.

How do i get the rest to work ?

**ash213** · 24-08-2008

I can get two working channels ( havent checked all 500)

Ocko TV
Public TV

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