1.1m dish set up

pedro2000uk · 15-10-2008

Originally Posted by mick2me

Motor exchanged.

Tuned to Thor

Moved to 28e but still needs dish elevation changing to get a signal?

Its the elevation thats wrong somewhere. East to west movement takes it to the right E-W

RAIN STOPPED PLAY...

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Does that motor point to where it should .... Thor is near zero where you are.. is it roughly zero? (all should be 1.2 more east .. Thor = 0.2 east on the motor) is 28.2e right? (28.2+1.2=29.4 on motor).

**mick2me** · 16-10-2008

I have double checked that the dish is plub. both with level on
the pole and back and sides of the motor.

Here are images of the dish mount and motor dial with dish pointing to Thor 0.8w then 28e.

I am N52.5
W1.2

**satelliteman** · 16-10-2008

Almost the same coordinates as me

Start with the dish on zero and straight.

Input L/L

Send dish to 0.8W

The dish will move 0.4º in an easterly direction (it's only a fraction)

Then set up on thor 0.8W

If everything is plumb and the correct latitude set to motor which it is, it should track the arc without any problems at all.

pedro2000uk · 16-10-2008

Originally Posted by mick2me

I have double checked that the dish is plub. both with level on
the pole and back and sides of the motor.

Here are images of the dish mount and motor dial with dish pointing to Thor 0.8w then 28e.

I am N52.5
W1.2

That's the wrong dial... it's the one on the front you go off... that's a Superjack and I think the other motor was too... that dial is intended to be turned by the installer to the correct location including offset regardless of the actual position on the front dial. ie: Thor would be at 1w on that when it's corerectly adjusted even though you don't live at zero latitude.

Just go off the front dial... that dial could be anywhere ..... that could be why your motor was 10 degrees west ... er.... it wasn't.

Sorry I didn't spot it was a Supejack earlier.. I couldn't see that on your first photos.

Just use the front dial and you can adjust that back dial when you know you are correctly on Thror to 1w with a screwdriver. (EDIT.. you could set that back dial to match the front)

BTW... very good motor ... that shouldn't grind and go ping.. very quiet too..

**mick2me** · 18-10-2008

The other motor was a Geotrack.
Appears to be exactly the same motor with a different label

The dish is centre on the motor stub
The pole is vertical and there is no PBO

Again i pointed the dish south with the motor centred.
Set my coords
Sent motor to Thor with USALS
Moved the motor on the pole and elevated dish to peak signal on Thor.

Go to Astra28e via USALS. NO SIGNAL

Whe dish is picking up Thor Motor FRONT scale shows approx 4 degrees west of centre.

I am 1.2 west, Thor is 0.8w so surely the motor should be showing 0.4 east of centre position when pointing at Thor?

**satelliteman** · 18-10-2008

yes it should.

**mick2me** · 18-10-2008

Set the motor for best signal on Thor Elevation scale on the dish reads 33 degrees

Sent it to 28E with USALS, No signal at all.

Changed the dish elevation only, got a very good signal from 28E,
The Elvation reading on the dish for 28E is 29 degrees.

The motor goes to the right place for satellite horizontally but needs the elevation changing to receive from the satellite?

**satelliteman** · 18-10-2008

Do you get 19e, 13e and 9e and what about the West side?

From the information you supplied above - indicates the motor Latitude is incorrect or too high but we've done all this.....

**rolfw** · 18-10-2008

Originally Posted by satelliteman

From the information you supplied above - indicates the motor Latitude is incorrect or too high but we've done all this.....

Or the latitude and longitude which has been input into the receiver.

**mick2me** · 18-10-2008

Got 19e
trying others
(this is with the dish prmarily elevated for 28e, not Thor)

**satelliteman** · 18-10-2008

No you need to align the dish El back to thor at the top of the arc.

A good point has been raised regarding the coordinates your inputting on the receiver.

Are you sure they are correct?

**Robbo** · 18-10-2008

Originally Posted by mick2me

Whe dish is picking up Thor Motor FRONT scale shows approx 4 degrees west of centre.

I am 1.2 west, Thor is 0.8w so surely the motor should be showing 0.4 east of centre position when pointing at Thor?

Yes, you need to sort this problem out first, otherwise your arc will be shifted to one side and too high in the centre, and too high on the eastern sats

**mick2me** · 18-10-2008

I am getting 19e 13e, still checking for others.

My coords are exactly as Postcode input for Streetmap_co_uk

I did initialy use Thor and had to adjust dish elevation by for degrees to get 28e.

If you set up by thor and all variables are correct, all other sats should fall into place on the scan. Therefore in theory, if all variables are correct,
you shoulf be able to set up on any satellite?

**satelliteman** · 18-10-2008

Can you post exactly your coordinates that is shown on your receiver.

**Robbo** · 18-10-2008

In theory yes, but only if the dish has gone to the right place. Still best to do it on Thor though.

**mick2me** · 19-10-2008

The coord on the receiver are 1.2W, 52.5N for NG10 3GG

got a signal from 45e (1 channel only on a scan)

Tried western sats, got nothing

Including now Thor with no signal

**Robbo** · 19-10-2008

Is the motor still showing 4W on front motor scale? (when you send to Thor with USALS)

If so, USALS is not working properly. Maybe try manually sending the motor so the scale reads 0.4E ish using DiSEqC 1.2, and setting up for Thor there.
Then store the sats manually.

EDIT, By the way , 52.5N, puts you south of Leicester, Nottingham is more like 52.9N.

**mick2me** · 19-10-2008

Originally Posted by mick2me

When dish is picking up Thor Motor FRONT scale shows approx 4 degrees west of centre.

I am 1.2 west, Thor is 0.8w so surely the motor should be showing 0.4 east of centre position when pointing at Thor?

Originally Posted by Robbo

Yes, you need to sort this problem out first, otherwise your arc will be shifted to one side and too high in the centre, and too high on the eastern sats

How can I make the motor point east of me to Thor, and not Show Thor as west of me?

You posted as I was typing this.

I can send it with 1.2 on the motor and adjust the motor on the pole, but its saving it that I am not sure of.
Will it not revert back when I switch back to USALS?

I am using a FortecStar FRCI-5100 with the motor at the moment.

**Robbo** · 19-10-2008

Yes, if you switch back to USALS, the position will possibly be forgotton.

USALS should just work! but it doesn't seem to be, maybe there is something screwy with your receiver/software I don't know, but if it works OK with Diseqc 1.2, then try using that I.E, Don't switch back to USALS.

**mick2me** · 19-10-2008

I will switch back to the Passion to drive the motor tomorrow.
Are settings stored by the motor?

**Robbo** · 19-10-2008

With USALS, no. With DiSEqC 1.2, yes.

**mick2me** · 19-10-2008

Then If I switch to 1.2, Set the motor to 0.4e (or is it 0.8w) as I am 1.2w.
Turn the motor on the pole and elevate dish to peak Thor.

All other satelites should be picked up on the arc?

**Robbo** · 19-10-2008

Yes, you are at 1.2W, so you need to send it to 0.4E on the motor scale,as 0.8W is 0.4 degrees east of your due south. Set it up there and it should follow the arc pretty much.

**satelliteman** · 19-10-2008

mick2me,

Your longitude is the same as mine and a 0.4º of a difference will have little or no effect for this quick test using DiSEqC 1.2 on this size dish with a 1.8º beam width.

To simplify this test just set the motor to ZERO then align to THOR. It's close enough for the test. Then drive the dish round to 28.5e using the receiver in DiSEqC 1.2 mode and see if you get reception.

SM

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