1.1m dish set up

**mick2me** · 08-10-2008

I have just upgraded my dish to 1.1m

Mounted between TK Brackets.

The pole is 100% level with the spirit level, in all directions.
Set my motor to 52.5N and tuned the STB to Thor on USALS, setting the motor to point to Thor.

Fine tuned the STB to best signal for Thor by moving motor E-W on the pole, and elevation of the dish (on the dish adjustment itself).

Quickly got a good signal on Thor. and set motor E-W and dish elevation
till I peaked the signal.

But driving the motor to Astra 28e (or any other satellite), with USALS, there is no signal received.

Thought I had got everything right, but somethings wrong?

Any suggestions?

pedro2000uk · 08-10-2008

did you move the motor with the stb....or leave it on thor and turn the motor on the pole bracket

**rolfw** · 08-10-2008

You may need to recalculate the satellites on your newly saved Thor coordinate.

**mick2me** · 08-10-2008

Originally Posted by rolfw

You may need to recalculate the satellites on your newly saved Thor coordinate.

Moved the motor on the pole not by driving it.

Have reset the STB to factory settings before going to Thor, and adjusting the motor on the pole?

**rolfw** · 08-10-2008

Yes, by moving the motor on the pole you will change the positions. Not sure what you are saying about factory reset, but if you have completed one, then re-entering your coordinates and sending the motor to reference, should make all satellites reappear.

pedro2000uk · 08-10-2008

did you put your coords (offset) in the stb?

is the dish straight on the motor arm

can't be a PBO fault because it's between the T & Ks... check if it's still straight/ vertical... 1.1s can be... heavy

You can't even get 5W or 5E?

motor overloaded?

**mick2me** · 10-10-2008

The factory reset put the STB settings of all the sats back to default.

You can see from the first picture how the motor is fixed.
The rope affair was my method of raising the Dish/motor assembly and is subject of another post.

I did put in my coords,
The pole and TK Brackets are fixed with M10's and is solid.
The pole is 100% upright.
The dish is centered on the motor arm.

There is some backlash on the motor which when moved does not give a signal. I will adjust this backlash as soon as I find out how.

I sent the dish to 28e via USALS and changed the dish elevation and rotation on the pole to peak the signal. Then sent the dish to 1w, and am getting no signal from Thor.

I have set the elevation on the motor to my coord of 52.5 but the dish elevation scale when receiving signals from 1w is nothing like?

You can see from the second picture that the triax dish is locked by two bolts and slides, as opposed to pivoting for elevation of the dish. Not as easy as my smaller dish which pivots on one bolt.

There is no index mark for the dish scale, but I assume it must be the center point?

Should the scales on both the motor and dish be set at 52.5N

**Robbo** · 10-10-2008

Errm, the reason you have no mark on the bracket is because it is on the other side. You have the bracket upside down. EDIT Well, I thought you did, as mine has to be the other way up, but in fact yours is correct.

I suspect the reason wht your system is not working properly is that the elevation setting on the motor is not correct,so your arc is not the right steepness. I think you have set the latitude too high by the look of it.

Can you post a side view of the motor showing the scale.

Oh, and the dish setting is not the same as your Latitude. The manual will give you an equation to use to set it as a first stab.

BTW, yes I agree the bracket on the Triax is absolute sh!te!
What I had to do on mine was to not tighten it up fully so you could just about move it, then screwed some self tappers in to stop it slipping. This was necessary, because when you tighten the two bolts, the elevation moves a tiny bit.

**mick2me** · 10-10-2008

I did not assemble the dish, bought it from someone with a motor.
The dish was up on a bracket, but the motor was not?

Do you think the guy sold the dish and motor after not being able to
get it to work? And because somethings upside down?

So If I just undo the two bolts and turn the bracket round that should do it?

So there should be a setting on the dish Elevation that I can set to match my 52.5N and the relevant setting on the motor?

**nanochickin** · 10-10-2008

I'm assuming that he means the bracket on the dish mate. Don't think its the one on the motor as they are exactly the same as mine

Did you set the elevation on the dish at 0 degrees and then setup 1w adjusting just the settings on the motor. I've set up loads of motorised dishes using that method and never had a problem.

I can go from 53e to 43w with no problems and good signal quality on both of my dishes just by setting up on 1w

Nano

**mick2me** · 10-10-2008

I did not at first see Robbo's Heading The bracket is upside down.

I set the motor elevation to 52.5 and moved the dish elevation to find Thor 1w.

I will try to turn the bracket round in the morning.

Attached is a better view of the bracket

**Robbo** · 10-10-2008

Yep, that's the one I meant. It won't stop you tracking the arc though, being upside down. It just explains why you have no notch for the dish setting.

It is the elevation setting on the motor that needs checking, you may have it right, but I can't see why it's not working if that was the case.

**mick2me** · 10-10-2008

As you can see The Triax instructions were written by IKEA.
There is no explanitary text just diagrams?

What are we supposed to glean from Diagram 8?

**rolfw** · 10-10-2008

The first mounting option is for locations where if using the dish alone, the elevation of the dish will not exceed 34 degrees, the second is for sites closer to the equator, where elevations may be up to 48 degrees.

**mick2me** · 10-10-2008

Correct me if I am wrong but the bracket is in fact the right way up?
The images show the other side of the scale

**Robbo** · 10-10-2008

Well, I was half right, the scale is on the other side.

I have mine the other way up as per the right hand side diagram as I have it mounted on a STAB 90, which requires the dish to be set to over 40 degees. I suspect that with your motor you want the left hand diagram, in which case you have it right.

Sowwwee

**satelliteman** · 10-10-2008

Just make sure the EL bracket fits the dish to give you a rough dish EL of 22.5º for that motor, assuming the declination is correct at 7.5º the dish will look slightly up from vertical. Elevation scales are that accurate in any case

**mick2me** · 10-10-2008

I just set the left hand dish scale to 22.5

As I am working 2-10, I will do the rest tomorrow.

I assume I leav the dish at 22.5 and set any vertical adjustment on the Motor scale?

**satelliteman** · 10-10-2008

Originally Posted by mick2me

I just set the left hand dish scale to 22.5

As I am working 2-10, I will do the rest tomorrow.

I assume I leav the dish at 22.5 and set any vertical adjustment on the Motor scale?

Assume you have read the guides, I think your getting confused

> Set the motor to your Latitude of 52.5
> Place the dish on the centre of the motor shaft
> Start off with the dish slightly up from vertical
> Enter co-ordinates into receiver
> Send the dish to Thor in usals menu or select the 1W from the sat list
> Adjust the motor around the pole and raise or lower the dish elevation until you have a lock on Thor
> Lock up nuts and drive motor to 42e and 30w and check
> Job complete

SM

**mick2me** · 11-10-2008

I sure am SM!

That was the procedure that worked with the 55cm dish.

Tried the same with the 1.1m Triax and could not get any other sats when Thor was tuned.

Cant see where your previous advice re setting the actual DISH SCALE to 22.5 comes in?

**bigtee** · 11-10-2008

Once the motor scale is set to your correct latitude of 52.5, that should not be changed at all; it should be left well alone as such.

The dish scale can be set to 22.5 as a start or, ignoring the scale, the dish should start angled just slightly above level. When searching for Thor you can alter the dish scale or dish tilting angle as appropriate; but the motor latitude/elevation setting should be left alone, once set correctly.

**Robbo** · 11-10-2008

Originally Posted by mick2me

Tried the same with the 1.1m Triax and could not get any other sats when Thor was tuned.
?

Can you post a close up view of the motor scale please.

**mick2me** · 11-10-2008

Originally Posted by Robbo71

Can you post a close up view of the motor scale please.

There ya go Robbo

**mick2me** · 11-10-2008

Exact coords are

N52:53
W1:16

I am inputting
N52.5
W1.2

**mick2me** · 11-10-2008

Now that THor is tuned, with the motor still set at 52.5

The dish scale shows...

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