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| Member Join Date: 19-11-2008 Location: Tenerife
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My System: Pace 2600C1 currently a 90cm Dish/Fortec uni lnb |
Earlier this year I moved into an apartment block on Tenerife. Already installed on the roof was a 3.2m off set dish (directed at 28.5) with a Humax Octo universal lnb. Unfortunately all 8 connections are in use so I have to make do with a redundant 0.9m dish and a Fortec Star uni lnb with my Pace 2600C1. It gives me good signal/picture with everything free to air on the south beam but of course I would love to make use of that dish and get the 'full hit' from the north beam especially as it's sited right on top of my bedroom roof. After lots of enquiries it seems a multiswitch is the answer and I've been considering asking at the owners agm in january if I could pay to have this installed with the necessary quad lnb. This is where i'd like to ask your advice. Would there be any signal deterioration for the existing users?, would they find weaker channels missing?. Is it possible to buy a multiswitch that uses line power from the recievers rather than a seperate mains power supply?. It's an old apartment block with no outside electricity. I'd be happy to run a cable from my flat, but what if my mains trip switch was to 'trip' while I was in the UK, or maybe I would need to knock the power off while i'm out there. The other dish owners would not be impressed. Thanks Vernon. ps. why don't they make 10 output lnbs? | ||
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| Super Moderator Real name: Paul Join Date: 07-05-2007 Location: South Midlands, UK & Lanzarote, Canary Islands
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My System: Zone1, DSI8215 SkyHD, Thomson DSI4214, TF5000CI, Dreambox DM800 HD PVR - Nab BH0.12, TM-5200D, Gibertini 104cm, SNH-031, 36v Actuator, Vbox-II, 42°E to 30°W, Sling Media, Televes H45 Digital Processing Analyser, Satlook Micro+G2 NIT, Rover SDM 1s | Welcome to satellites forum Vernon, Correct, more than eight users, a multiswitch would be needed. A Quattro LNb (four fixed ouputs) would need to feed a switch. Ideally a mains powered active multi-switch will require a landlords supply (what we call it here in the UK). You can use a RX powered switch but the losses will be greater. SM | ||
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| Design Engineer/Installer Join Date: 08-08-2007 Location: Central UK, E Cheshire ..near Jodrell
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My System: 75e-75w C & KU, 36v h-h /36v & diseqc actuators / diseqc -USALS motors / Anlg to HD Channel Masters C120s dishes, stb's inc echo3000, lnbs, meters, custom polar mounts & elevation/incline actuator conversions... | Why not set up a battery back up to help ensure 100% power continuity - if the multiswitch is already designed to be powered by a separate 12v PSU a 12v car battery would be easy and keep it going longer than you need - add a solar panel charger and you might not need any mains. What LNB is on there now .. a C120 + feed horn or lnbf? How good are the signals now for the 8? Do they lose 2D at times? If you change that LNB to anything else, just that can easily cause signal loss (or gain) depending if the LNB on there now is working very well so you could lose signal with a quattro before it gets to the multiswitch.. and a multiswitch can cost some signal. Systems here usually spec an 80 dish instead of a Sky dish partly to compensate for loses. Check if there is a loss quoted on a particular multi. You can do a search top right for other threads for 28e for that area. | ||
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| Super Moderator Real name: Paul Join Date: 07-05-2007 Location: South Midlands, UK & Lanzarote, Canary Islands
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My System: Zone1, DSI8215 SkyHD, Thomson DSI4214, TF5000CI, Dreambox DM800 HD PVR - Nab BH0.12, TM-5200D, Gibertini 104cm, SNH-031, 36v Actuator, Vbox-II, 42°E to 30°W, Sling Media, Televes H45 Digital Processing Analyser, Satlook Micro+G2 NIT, Rover SDM 1s | Also consider a Stacker/De-Stacker on one of the ports. An option | ||
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| Member Join Date: 19-11-2008 Location: Tenerife
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My System: Pace 2600C1 currently a 90cm Dish/Fortec uni lnb | Thanks very much for all your advise. Although it seems some small signal loss may be incurred, a multiswitch is the way to go here. I understand that this dish/setup gives very good performance and the signal only deteriorates in extreme conditions. The other residents tell me that prior to this they used a 're-transmitted' or microwave aerial sytem that at best gave 70% reliability. A thread I picked up on this site is the Slingbox. I'm not sure if that is worth looking into as a wireless broadband system advertised in my area (Los Gigantes) is 32 euros/month. Thanks again, I will let you know how it goes in January. Vernon. | ||
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| Specialist Contributor Join Date: 25-04-2005 Location: Austria
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My System: 1,25 Fibostop Jäger Smr 1224 & Smo 36 Dual Axsis Motor Dynasat F1 Monterey 140 Drembox 800 sky Pace HD Box Tagra 2,20 M Fullsize Dish Echostar 2,40m Mesh for cband! | Hello! the cheaper solution,with the same results,are buying a octo lnb with 8 outputs! this is much chaper,and you can also conect,8 receivers direkt! you only need more cable ![]() here a picutre of it! _http://www.lnb-info.de/octo_lnb.php translated ,with google,some words,are corrected manually ![]() Basic information: The Octo LNB is a LNB with built-8-fold multi-switch. He is also often described as 8-speed quad-LNB switch means. At the 8 LNB's connections can be up to 8 analog or digital receiver can be connected. The major disadvantage of this solution is that of his LNB Supply on the receiver applies. Especially the Octo LNB with 8 ports requires relatively lot of power in mA. External a solution with multi-switch is much better, because the external multi-switch on its own power r In addition strengthens An external multi-switch the input signal something. Today's Octa LNB's are called universal LNB. This means you are the low and high band can receive. This allows You with analog and digital receivers are used. Examples: Qcto LNB plants are usually larger detached houeses used because usually 84 connecting possibilities totally insufficient. But it is better to the solution with external multi switch to use. but more expensice! It is also possible herewith a similar facility just replace Just the existing old LNB against a Qcto LNB exchange. The old multi-switches can be connected to the new LNB connected. In addition, you can now 6 digital receiver / TV cards said. Important, but this is only an analog multi-switch. The connection of a digital multi-switch would not make sense. Technical information: Connections: 8 Low Volume capable: yes High Volume capable: yes use with multi-switch possible: no sorry,i forget,to edit the live link,after translation | ||
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