Height of Dish that Sky will install

Information exchange on LNBs, Single satellite, motorised and multi-satellite systems. DiSEqC switches, positioners, motors, actuators, dish-alignment etc.


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 22-09-2009   #1
Member
 
Join Date: 22-09-2009
Location: uk
Posts: 3
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

My System: Sky HD and broadband
Height of Dish that Sky will install

Hi Can anyone tell me if there is a maximum predetermined height that Sky engineers will install a dish at?
Thanks
Mandik
mandik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-09-2009   #2
Super Moderator
 
satelliteman's Avatar
 
Real name: Paul
Join Date: 07-05-2007
Location: South Midlands, UK & Lanzarote, Canary Islands
Posts: 4401
Thanks: 24
Thanked 542 Times in 478 Posts

My System: Zone1, DSI8215 SkyHD, Thomson DSI4214, TF5000CI, Dreambox DM800 HD PVR - Nab BH0.12, TM-5200D, Gibertini 104cm, SNH-031, 36v Actuator, Vbox-II, 42°E to 30°W, Sling Media, Televes H45 Digital Processing Analyser, Satlook Micro+G2 NIT, Rover SDM 1s

Welcome,

SHS installers normally only work upto guttering height. Their special height installation teams may offer non-standard installations.

satelliteman.
.....
A Detailed DiSEqC Motor Installation Set Up Guide > HERE
Quick Reference Guide also > HERE

Satellites UK site Advertisers
.
An Installers Choice
......

Follow us on
.
satelliteman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-09-2009   #3
Member
 
Join Date: 22-09-2009
Location: uk
Posts: 3
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

My System: Sky HD and broadband

Thanks very much for such a quick reply. I have a dish installed at guttering height that needed moving to a different point on building but at same height because of trees in line of signal and after 3 months of problems have just been told that H&S regs have changed since Sky installed dish and its now too high for Sky to even look at??
mandik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-09-2009   #4
Believe it when I see it Admin.
 
rolfw's Avatar
 
Real name: Rolf
Join Date: 01-05-1999
Location: Southern England
Posts: 29870
Thanks: 51
Thanked 1098 Times in 691 Posts
Blog Entries: 5

My System: Pace Sky HD, DM7000s, CubeRevo 3000HDPVR, Transparent 80cm Dish, Moteck SG2100 DiseqC motor, lots of legacy gear. Meters: Satlook Digital NIT, Televes H45 Digital Spectrum analyser.

How high is your gutter, is it a 3 storey house and is it above the gutter?

Rolf
If you enjoy our site, you can help support it by wearing our unique branded merchandise, you can do this by clicking on my baseball cap, making a direct donation with Paypal by clicking on the Donation button below, or using our site supporting advertisers, to do this, click on the central image below. Follow us on Twitter, click on the twitter image.



rolfw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-09-2009   #5
Toute Ronde Bon Oeuf
 
Tivů's Avatar
 
Real name: Gordon
Join Date: 29-05-2009
Location: North Yorks Moors
Posts: 1836
Thanks: 43
Thanked 170 Times in 164 Posts

My System: Triax 1.1m and Orbital 80cm Motorised Dishes. Various fixed Dishes. Eclectic selection of Digital and Analogue Receivers. Complex switching and distribution that SWMBO cannot fathom. Nor me.

Originally Posted by mandik View Post
Thanks very much for such a quick reply. I have a dish installed at guttering height that needed moving to a different point on building but at same height because of trees in line of signal and after 3 months of problems have just been told that H&S regs have changed since Sky installed dish and its now too high for Sky to even look at??
The Work At Height Regs don't forbid installing Dishes at considerable height, they simply require suitable and appropriate safety precautions to be taken. That generally means it is more expensive for them in terms of manpower and equipment.

Sky could handle it if they were minded to, and they do have teams trained so to do. But they do have a restrictive Policy, nevertheless.

I worked in H&S Enforcement for many years and can tell you that "the rules" are often misinterpreted as a "get out clause". Sometimes through lack of understanding, but also due to disinclination (ie Deliberate misrepresentation and obfuscation to apparently excuse lack of action!).


Last edited by Tivů; 22-09-2009 at 07:55 PM.
Tivů is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Tivů For This Useful Post:
kenny1234 (22-09-2009), mandik (23-09-2009)
Old 22-09-2009   #6
Regular Member
 
Join Date: 08-06-2008
Location: england
Posts: 99
Thanks: 11
Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts

My System: tm 9100 tm 1500 ci dm box 600 1 m dish polar mount 12 inc acuator v box 2 cas 3 dragon diablo gamma

i have done lots of jobs that sky special heights team have back heeled .... i have also got a one on tues to price, im sure theirs a few installers have done the same on here ... sky special heights lol ..makes you wonder if they do any work at all ... makes you wonder why their engineers carry cat roof ladders aswell ...they are a joke ... sorry im haveing a bad day can t stand prima donas.. us poor mugs have got to sort it out ...
leez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-09-2009   #7
Mod and septic resident
 
Channel Hopper's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-01-2000
Location: London SW
Posts: 9287
Thanks: 6
Thanked 204 Times in 190 Posts

Originally Posted by mandik View Post
Thanks very much for such a quick reply. I have a dish installed at guttering height that needed moving to a different point on building but at same height because of trees in line of signal and after 3 months of problems have just been told that H&S regs have changed since Sky installed dish and its now too high for Sky to even look at??


I thought that any install had to offer a minimum of one years tree/hedge growth, about 1.5 metres.

If this is truly down to plantation, then you are covered under their original installation warranty.

If your 'engineer' forgot to caluculate when your house was checked/fitted then you have reasonable claim against the original installer/installation team.

I trust you have kept that 'satisfactory' receipt you signed.

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness"
Channel Hopper is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Channel Hopper For This Useful Post:
mandik (23-09-2009)
Old 23-09-2009   #8
Member
 
Join Date: 10-11-2008
Location: uk
Posts: 2
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

My System: XP PC haupaugge 3000 Fixed astra 2 DVB dream

My dish is on a pole just above the gutter height and needed the special install team. When it goes wrong it is the same, the normal team will not touch it. Which generally means a 4-6 week wait until they have a slot to repair it.
fred08 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-09-2009   #9
Regular Member
 
Join Date: 08-06-2008
Location: england
Posts: 99
Thanks: 11
Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts

My System: tm 9100 tm 1500 ci dm box 600 1 m dish polar mount 12 inc acuator v box 2 cas 3 dragon diablo gamma

Originally Posted by fred08 View Post
My dish is on a pole just above the gutter height and needed the special install team. When it goes wrong it is the same, the normal team will not touch it. Which generally means a 4-6 week wait until they have a slot to repair it.
in my eyes thats to long for people ... they also been fitting then huge heavy steel offset masts with 2 small wall brackets to clear eaves or if they cant be bothered to throw the cable over the roof if dish has to go on back of the property on a terrace .... theses offset or cranked masts are such a eyesore and are very prone to moving in heavy winds ......its mainly all down to sky cause they just want as many installs as possible off their workers and fast ...
leez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-09-2009   #10
Super Moderator
 
satelliteman's Avatar
 
Real name: Paul
Join Date: 07-05-2007
Location: South Midlands, UK & Lanzarote, Canary Islands
Posts: 4401
Thanks: 24
Thanked 542 Times in 478 Posts

My System: Zone1, DSI8215 SkyHD, Thomson DSI4214, TF5000CI, Dreambox DM800 HD PVR - Nab BH0.12, TM-5200D, Gibertini 104cm, SNH-031, 36v Actuator, Vbox-II, 42°E to 30°W, Sling Media, Televes H45 Digital Processing Analyser, Satlook Micro+G2 NIT, Rover SDM 1s

I've used the Raven universal mount on occasions. Quick and easy enough to install, looks no more of an eyesore than a TK fitting.

_http://www.raven.co.uk/satellite-products/documents/ClickherefortheRavenUniversalMountSpecSheet_000.pd f

satelliteman.
.....
A Detailed DiSEqC Motor Installation Set Up Guide > HERE
Quick Reference Guide also > HERE

Satellites UK site Advertisers
.
An Installers Choice
......

Follow us on
.
satelliteman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-09-2009   #11
Believe it when I see it Admin.
 
rolfw's Avatar
 
Real name: Rolf
Join Date: 01-05-1999
Location: Southern England
Posts: 29870
Thanks: 51
Thanked 1098 Times in 691 Posts
Blog Entries: 5

My System: Pace Sky HD, DM7000s, CubeRevo 3000HDPVR, Transparent 80cm Dish, Moteck SG2100 DiseqC motor, lots of legacy gear. Meters: Satlook Digital NIT, Televes H45 Digital Spectrum analyser.

Yep, have to say that I find the Raven offset mast much less obtrusive than the equivalent 18" or 24" t&K mount.

Rolf
If you enjoy our site, you can help support it by wearing our unique branded merchandise, you can do this by clicking on my baseball cap, making a direct donation with Paypal by clicking on the Donation button below, or using our site supporting advertisers, to do this, click on the central image below. Follow us on Twitter, click on the twitter image.



rolfw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-09-2009   #12
Member
 
Join Date: 22-09-2009
Location: uk
Posts: 3
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

My System: Sky HD and broadband
Dish Height

Thanks to everyone for your replies; its as I thought Sky are just using the 'too high' card to fob me off as I have refused to accept their 'its nothing to do with us' response. The dish was fitted by Sky, on a short pole at gutter height on a two storey building, they happily came back last year and added additional wiring for multi-room but mysteriously this year it was far too high for their engineers to even think about looking at. It seems that the approach the engineers they sent which involved standing on the lawn with their arms folded whilst shaking the heads hasn't improved my picture quality at all! Never mind over to an independent engineer now and goodbye to Sky!
Thanks again everyone, wish I had discivered this site weeks ago!
Mandi
mandik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-09-2009   #13
Regular Member
 
Join Date: 08-06-2008
Location: england
Posts: 99
Thanks: 11
Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts

My System: tm 9100 tm 1500 ci dm box 600 1 m dish polar mount 12 inc acuator v box 2 cas 3 dragon diablo gamma

i still rather had a cradle on me chimley ..nice small straight mast . if possible , or if a terrace cable over the roof in a perfect world ..lads .. i supose its all down to choice but i like straight poles better ... than offset .. it may be just me but i think the offset carry on is rather ugly ..
leez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 Days Ago   #14
Member
 
Real name: George
Join Date: 14-04-2009
Location: manchester
Posts: 49
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts

My System: dreambox 500/sky HD 1mtr motorized dish

The trouble with SKY is that the contractors take the cream and pay the subbys peanuts for installs so that is why we have head shakers when it comes to special heights. SKY want the subby to pay for any extra bracketry.

pay peanuts all you will get is monkeys

PS you are covered by sky for 12 months for bad installation , if this happens SKY take back the install from the subby

so i would not let them fob you off m8 Greed will be the downfall odf SKY
dale094 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
dish, height, install, sky


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off







All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:44 PM.


All views and information expressed in users' communications and profiles represent the opinions of the users concerned and do not represent the views of Satellites.co.uk. All images and news content are believed to be in the public domain, except where otherwise stated. Forum software by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.1