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Old 04-10-2009   #1
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Can anyone identify the angle of dishes?

Hi,
I just bought a receiver (EyeTV Sat) and am trying to work it out.
At this moment, I cannot see BBC and ITV's main channels.

My flat has 2 dishes installed already when I moved in and I am expecting that one of the dishes can be used with my receiver.
According to web search, all I need to have is a dish which faces to 28.2 E for Astra 2D to receive BBC/ITV.
The 2 dishes are facing at different angles. So I was hoping one of them are facing to 28.2E.
However, when I auto-tune with both dishes, there is no BBC(main channels)/ITV in the list of found channels, even if the total number of the tuned channels were more than 200~300.

Providers of channels from Dish 1 (not name of channel)
Eutelsat, Telespazio, CYFRA+, DMT, OVERON, GlobalCast...etc
BBC radio channels were tuned but no BBC TV.

Providers of channels from Dish 2
Digital+, ARD, TVP, IMEDIA, ZDFvision...etc

(Note: these auto-tune was done with 28.2 Astra 2D settings, when I change the settings to i.e. 19.2, 28.5, 26.0....etc, I could tune BBC world)

I checked which satellite is broadcasting these channels on websites, that looked to me that I'm receiving 19.2E (Astra 1x), 28.5E Eurobird1, 13.0E hotbird but no 28.2E.

I think I anyway have to try re-align the dishes but I'm wondering why I cannot receive 28.2E.
At least 19.2, 28.2 and 28.5 are very close each other and I think my receiver/dishes should be able to receive 28.2, as it receives channels from 19.2 and 28.5.

If anyone can advise me for my situation to receive BBC/ITV, it will be appreciated.

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Hi,
Most probably you are receiving from 19.2E Astra and Hotbird 13E. You cannot be receiving from Eurobird 1 as well as you only have two dishes.

What do you want to do? Re-align one of them for 28.2?

The 19.2E will be your easiest option: swivel it eastward by about 9 degrees and lower the elevation a tad. Do it while monitoring a transponder on 28E.

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Thanks for your quick reply.

Yes, I'm going to re-align one of them.

One (maybe stupid) question, can one dish not receive 2 satellites?
If not, why my receiver could tune channels from wrong satellite (19.2E)
when i tried to tune for 28.2E?


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Originally Posted by ucq View Post
Thanks for your quick reply.

Yes, I'm going to re-align one of them.

One (maybe stupid) question, can one dish not receive 2 satellites?
If not, why my receiver could tune channels from wrong satellite (19.2E)
when i tried to tune for 28.2E?


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Yes, one dish can receive two satellites with the same LNB if they are close enough by about 1 degree. For exmple, I can receive Amos 4W and also Atlantic Bird 3 5W
On the hand I can't receive Nilesat on 7W (3 degrees difference).

When you try scanning, the receiver will catch the channels that it can receive, regardless of which satellite you tell it to catch.
For example, as I have only Hot Bird 13E, if I try to scan Astra 19.2E, the receiver will bring me only transponders that it can see from Hot Bird 13E.

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one dish can receive more than one sat

hello,
one dish can receive more that 2 satellits.
example i have set up one dish picking up 3 satellits.
one 19 est one feed 16 east and one 13 east.
all 3 are 3 degrees apart.
uning a 3 input disec switch will do it .
each satellite will loose a little signal, except the one in the center.
i have seen toridal dishes that would pick up 4 or 5 satellits that were close together.
and i have seen dishes were the lnb would move on a sliding track with a small motor as well.
i don't think the sky box will support disec signals.
if you align onr for 13 east and another for 28 east and use a free to air receiver and disec switch there shoud not be a probleme if you know how to set this up.
hope this helps
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Originally Posted by ralphmagno View Post
and i have seen dishes were the lnb would move on a sliding track with a small motor as well.
ralph
This sounds interesting ralph.
Can you please give more information about such a setup?
Perhaps in a new thread if possible.
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Originally Posted by ucq View Post
(maybe stupid) question, can one dish not receive 2 satellites?
If not, why my receiver could tune channels from wrong satellite (19.2E)
when i tried to tune for 28.2E?

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Common frequencies are used.

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Originally Posted by ucq View Post
One (maybe stupid) question, can one dish not receive 2 satellites?
If not, why my receiver could tune channels from wrong satellite (19.2E)
when i tried to tune for 28.2E?
I think this is such a common question there should be a sticky about it.

The reason the box needs to know the orbital position of the satellite is so it can select the correct aerial system for that satellite. If your aerial system is only capable of receiving from one orbital position and you do a scan for the channels on another position you are just rescanning the same satellite.
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