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1.20m dish multi lnb 28,26,19,13 east, help!!!!

hi guys, i was wondering if Simone can help with this, i am currently located in the south of Ireland and was able to get all satellite on a motorized system, now I'm after changing to a multi lnb holder after my
motor broke due to strong winds, I'm trying to get Astra 28, badr26 kuband, Astra and hotbird13 est, i can get all the three satellites with a ve ry good signal strength, but no way to get badr26, i had to bend the holder up to get Astra28 and down to get hotbird13 witsh i manged to get with a good 70 to 99% of signal strength, but no way to get badr i tried all day yesterday without any soccess, it would be great if Simone can help with this and tank u in advance.
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Hi,

If 26E were possible from your location on a 1.2m (I don't know), you need to have 26E as the focal LNB. But depending on the dish, 13e may not be possible, but easily received on a small dish anyway.

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If 26E were possible from your location on a 1.2m (I don't know), you need to have 26E as the focal LNB. But depending on the dish, 13e may not be possible, but easily received on a small dish anyway.
do think that having badre as the focal lnb is the only way? because i allredy have difficulty geting hotbird as it is, is there not a trick u can do to the holder or the lnb?
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Can you confirm that you were able to get 26E before your Motor broke?

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Can you confirm that you were able to get 26E before your Motor broke?
absolutley, at 40 to 60% signal.
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That isn't a huge signal, so you've no margin for any kind of inefficiency in your system.

So I'm afraid Robbo's earlier advice to set BADR as the focus is all we can offer.

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26E is weak here and in Ireland of course, putting the LNB off focus simply reduces the chances of picking it up even further.

Hotbird, is a piece of pie, on the other hand, a Sky minidish will get that.

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Originally Posted by Tivų View Post
That isn't a huge signal, so you've no margin for any kind of inefficiency in your system.

So I'm afraid Robbo's earlier advice to set BADR as the focus is all we can offer.
if i do that, do u think that i will still be able to get astra19 n hotbird13 est or is it gowing to be impossible and tank u all for ur great help.
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Yes, you should be able to get 19E, 26E and 28E on the 1.2m no problem and Hotbird on a small separate dish.

I have tried to get Hotbird on a 1.2m dish focussed on 26E, but was not able to get a good signal, but I believe it was because one of the LNB arm supports was in the way, but 19.2E was fine as far as I can remember.

For 26E + 28E you need LNBs with small heads though, The Inverto silvertech singles or blacks would do it. With larger headed LNBs its a bit of a fiddle.

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Yes, you should be able to get 19E, 26E and 28E on the 1.2m no problem and Hotbird on a small separate dish.

I have tried to get Hotbird on a 1.2m dish focussed on 26E, but was not able to get a good signal, but I believe it was because one of the LNB arm supports was in the way, but 19.2E was fine as far as I can remember.

For 26E + 28E you need LNBs with small heads though, The Inverto silvertech singles or blacks would do it. With larger headed LNBs its a bit of a fiddle.
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so wdo u suggest as diametre for my location for htbird? would a 48cm do for that? and tank u very much for the quick replay.
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Originally Posted by Robbo View Post
Yes, you should be able to get 19E, 26E and 28E on the 1.2m no problem and Hotbird on a small separate dish.

I have tried to get Hotbird on a 1.2m dish focussed on 26E, but was not able to get a good signal, but I believe it was because one of the LNB arm supports was in the way, but 19.2E was fine as far as I can remember.

For 26E + 28E you need LNBs with small heads though, The Inverto silvertech singles or blacks would do it. With larger headed LNBs its a bit of a fiddle.
waht do u meaan by smal heads? what difirence dose it make? i have astra 28 with an invacom 0.3 db lnb dual and the signal on itv2 is 96% and qulity is 98% aand i was trying to get 26 with a chess 3th edition 0.1 db single.
do u think they would do the job? tanks
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I mean the diameter of the plastic covered feedhorn at the front of the LNB.

If it is too wide, you can't get the LNBs close enough together to get 26E and 28E properly. A 1.2m dish is probably the smallest dish that this can be done on anyway, it certainly can't be done on a 1m.

It is just possible to get 26E and 28E on a 1.2m dish with the slightly wider LNBs but it is tricky, try it and see. You have to just move the 28E LNB around the main one, until it gets the best signal, but it won't be optimum.


If you use an Inverto silvertech single for the 26E LNB, and maybe your Invacom for the 28E LNB it may work. If not you may need to use an Alps Narrow feedhorn LNB for the 28E.

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Originally Posted by Robbo View Post
I mean the diameter of the plastic covered feedhorn at the front of the LNB.

If it is too wide, you can't get the LNBs close enough together to get 26E and 28E properly. A 1.2m dish is probably the smallest dish that this can be done on anyway, it certainly can't be done on a 1m.

It is just possible to get 26E and 28E on a 1.2m dish with the slightly wider LNBs but it is tricky, try it and see. You have to just move the 28E LNB around the main one, until it gets the best signal, but it won't be optimum.


If you use an Inverto silvertech single for the 26E LNB, and maybe your Invacom for the 28E LNB it may work. If not you may need to use an Alps Narrow feedhorn LNB for the 28E.
that all good m8 tank u.
and what about the diametre of the dish? would 48cm do the job or what do u think?
just to let u know, two or three years ago i had a 80cm motorised dish and a cheap 0.6db from lidl and i was able to get badre with a litle dificulty but it was watchable at that time, dhe dish is free standing on the ground in the back garden on a 3.50m mast suppot.
sorry about asking all these questions but u see im from morocco and my wife is irish i have her reciever in the bedroom connected to the twin lnb on astra28 thats what i want to get as much arabic channels as possible from 26 n 13 i have a art 1year card for13 that i want use along with the free channels from 26.
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I don't know what size minidish you guys use in Ireland, I think its the zone 2 you need for 28E, so it could be the same size needed for 13E.

The 80cm would do Hotbird easy though. If you have a 48cm, and you dont want to use the 80cm, try it, see if it works.

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Originally Posted by Robbo View Post
I don't know what size minidish you guys use in Ireland, I think its the zone 2 you need for 28E, so it could be the same size needed for 13E.

The 80cm would do Hotbird easy though. If you have a 48cm, and you dont want to use the 80cm, try it, see if it works.
tank u very much budy, u where a great help 48cm will do just fine a found out that it will work ok.
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Originally Posted by Robbo View Post
IIt is just possible to get 26E and 28E on a 1.2m dish with the slightly wider LNBs but it is tricky, try it and see.
I did this a few days ago on a Gibertini 1.25 here. I set it the other way though with Astra 2 in the breech because Astra is the weaker satellite here. The only way to get the LNBs close enough together was to put them at different depths and overlapping. The offset LNB was forward slightly shielding the one in the breech a little bit but signal barely was affected. I tried the offset LNB further out inside of in so it became the shielded one but then there was a big drop in signal on that LNB due to being well back from the focal point.

The Inverto bullet nosed LNB is a good choice for the stronger signal when you can't get the LNBs close enough together. It's for a 23mm clamp but comes with a converter so it can be used in a 40mm one. We even us them here on prime focus dishes pointed at 28.2E & 26E and they're slim enough not to interfere with the big Invacom style feed horn aligned on 28.2E.
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