Help me find astra 2

NOSMO · 2 Weeks Ago

Hi folks,
O.k i bought a dish off a friend put a new black ultra quad on it pointed it around a bit and hey presto good signal strength adjusted elevation and skew great signal. Problem is i have picked up a whole bunch of German channels although cnn is in english. I have tried to find other satellites but if i go further east i get saudi arabia channels so how far off from my beloved bbc am i. My elevation on the dish is 46 which is not quite right me thinks, i live in madrid post code 28794 if that helps. I would appreciate it if someone could let me know how far east or west i am of from the correct spot also if my elevation is picking up german t.v at 46 what would it need to be for astra 2. Thanks in advance.........Nosmo

**Analoguesat** · 2 Weeks Ago

You probably need a bigger dish for the BBC channels:

_http://www.astra2d.com/spain.htm

_http://www.astra2d.com/iberia2d.htm

suggests over 2m is needed for decent reception of the BBC & other channels!

**rolfw** · 2 Weeks Ago

Astra 28.2 is four or so degrees lower than Astra 19.2.

NOSMO · 2 Weeks Ago

when you say lower do you mean i am in the right place but elevation needs to be lower or what???????????????????

**Topper** · 2 Weeks Ago

All the satellites that can be viewed from the earth are on what is known as the Clarke curve see picture, thus the elevation is different for different satellites

**Robbo** · 2 Weeks Ago

You could at least post the satellitesuk one Topper

**PaulR** · 2 Weeks Ago

Lower means that you have to slacken off the satellite clamps and point the dish a little lower in the sky. If you look at Topper's diagram you can see why - as you go from one side to the other satellites appear to be arranged in a circular line .

**Topper** · 2 Weeks Ago

Originally Posted by Robbo

You could at least post the satellitesuk one Topper

Oooops I hadn't noticed that, does that mean you plaguerised that image you posted Robbo

**Robbo** · 2 Weeks Ago

Cheek!

Of course not.

No, I drew it, and then customised it for here and there. I have the clean version somewhere.

**Topper** · 2 Weeks Ago

Originally Posted by Robbo

Cheek! Of course not.

No, I drew it, and then customised it for here and there. I have the clean version somewhere.

How have I got the no sky version, I do not belong to other forums?

**Robbo** · 2 Weeks Ago

Here, have this one, just for you.

***Huevos*** · 2 Weeks Ago

Originally Posted by Analoguesat

You probably need a bigger dish for the BBC channels

Originally Posted by NOSMO

if i go further east i get saudi arabia channels so how far off from my beloved bbc am i.

Ok, the dish is plenty big enough for Madrid. I'm watching Match of the Day right now and I'm using the same dish and LNB in a much worse signal area at the worst time of day.

The elevation scale on that dish is pretty accurate. Set it at 33º to start with. Go back to where the arabic channels are, badr 4/6, and then move the dish a fraction more to the east. Move it about the width of the LNB. When I've set up multi LNBs in the past for Astra 2 and Arabsat the LNBs are touching so this should give you an idea just how close you are.

NOSMO · 1 Week Ago

Thanks for the good advice. Holy cow batman i think we have it. I have itv 1, BBC 1 not a lot else have i hit the wrong satellite again is this 19.2 or what? i am getting closer any ideas on what i tuned into

***Tivù*** · 1 Week Ago

If you've got ITV and BBC you are definitely on the right Satellite - If they were also on 19.2E there'd be thousands of very happy bunnies out there!

***Huevos*** · 1 Week Ago

Originally Posted by NOSMO

Thanks for the good advice. Holy cow batman i think we have it. I have itv 1, BBC 1 not a lot else have i hit the wrong satellite again is this 19.2 or what? i am getting closer any ideas on what i tuned into

You are on the right satellite... but... to do this properly you are going to need a decent meter. In England with a mini dish anyone or his granny could tune in 28.2E almost blindfolded but here you need to be really accurate. I find on my setup that the threshold of BBC1, ITV1, etc is 2 clicks from the centreline on my 1224 motor. This means the difference between having the satellite nailed and completely no quality is less than 0.25º.

NOSMO · 1 Week Ago

So it appears that i have found astra well sort of. i have a good picture on bbc1 good picture on itv but no bbc2 or much else apart from sky channels which are encrypted. After all the hard work and kind advice do i now need to get someone in with a really good meter. How come i get bbc 1 and not 2. Should i fiddle up down right or left or not at all

**satelliteman** · 1 Week Ago

Originally Posted by NOSMO

How come i get bbc 1 and not 2. Should i fiddle up down right or left or not at all

2d horizontal transponders are a difficult catch for that region and not normally received 24/7.

***Huevos*** · 1 Week Ago

Originally Posted by NOSMO

i have a good picture on bbc1 good picture on itv but no bbc2

Read Embalse's reports from Madrid:
Channel Master 1.2 with CM feed horn and Invacom C120 quad LNB,
Channel Master 1.8 with Black Ultra quad LNB.

Just to sum up, the 1.2 is very flaky for reception of 2D horizontals, but, the 1.8 gets them 24/7. Your dish should perform closer to the 1.8 than the 1.2.

The only channels on horizontals but not verticals are: BBC2/3/4, CBBC, CBeebies, Channel 4 and Five.

NOSMO · 1 Week Ago

The problem was with the box it was searching for 19.2 but satellite was pointing at 28.2 gave me itv and bbc1 but told me it was 19.2.
I changed the settings to search for 28.2 and the channels came in thick and fast, hundreds. I have tweeked it a little here and a little there and seem to have fairly good signal although bbc1 started to break up last night at around 8 pm

But hey i have managed it with help from you guys, thanks for all the help and advice

I live in Guadalix de la sierra (Madrid) in case anyone lives nearby.
One more thing my sustem cost a mere €100 not bad eh.........The guy i got the dish from was told it was too big.
Thanks again and if anyone has any ideas how i can improve the setup or add bits pls let me know.

***Tivù*** · 1 Week Ago

Fantastic!

Very good result indeed

***Huevos*** · 1 Week Ago

Originally Posted by NOSMO

I have tweeked it a little here and a little there and seem to have fairly good signal although bbc1 started to break up last night at around 8 pm

Sounds like it still isn't aligned properly. How did you get on with BBC2, Channel 4 and Five?

NOSMO · 1 Week Ago

Originally Posted by Huevos

Sounds like it still isn't aligned properly. How did you get on with BBC2, Channel 4 and Five?

Could be, i have adjusted it a little today and so far as of 16.50 Madrid time i have good picture on BBC2, Channel 4 and now i get channel 5. No BBC3 0R BBC4. I will wait to see what happens as the night rolls in but it is better than yesterday. Oh yes great signal and picture on the God channel, if nothing else i may yet receive salvation...Amen

***Tivù*** · 1 Week Ago

Originally Posted by NOSMO

Could be, i have adjusted it a little today and so far as of 16.50 Madrid time i have good picture on BBC2, Channel 4 and now i get channel 5. No BBC3 0R BBC4. I will wait to see what happens as the night rolls in but it is better than yesterday. Oh yes great signal and picture on the God channel, if nothing else i may yet receive salvation...Amen

You won't get BBC3 or BBC4 until 19.00z .............

They share with CBeebies and CBBC (Same VPIDs and APIDs - It's just the programming and the Channel Ident that changes).

So if you've got CBeebies and CBBC, you've got BBC3 and BBC4 (But if you are picky about the labels and either want both or can't be botherd to Edit, just rescan after 19.00z

You're doing better than you thought you were!

***Huevos*** · 1 Week Ago

NOSMO, can you update your system so we can see what receiver you are using.

NOSMO · 1 Week Ago

its an Orbitech fta 400s. (herein lies my problem me thinks)Got it free with dish.
Hoping to get better box soon maybe Humax Foxsat Freesat.

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