Strongest / Reference Transponders

T_G

I would like to create a list of the strongest transponder for each satellite. When trying to find a sat with a motor is much easier when you know the strongest transponder, and best would be to add to that one or two channels with FTA signal.

So, let's have 'em!

Important note

As this is a sticky thread please do not post questions that are not relevant to this thread. I only want to see lists of transponders of various sats and information that can be used for tuning into a weak signal. All irrelevant posts will be deleted, shreddered and slashed

For all other questions there is a whole lot of forum left for it, posting there will make sure you get an answer to your problem

T_G I only believe stuff that comes straight from Mr. Horses mouth!

john_graydon

Great idea.. Especially for the newcomer who is searching for a transponder that no longer exists and thinks he cant get that satellite. This happened me last year after spending days looking for something that was`nt there.

whatpassword

I asked the very same question only a few days ago at alt.satellite.tv.europe. I had just received a new receiver and was trying to save myself some time with the tuning. Anyway I've gone through 20+ satellites and these were the strongest transponders for me. I have a motorised 80cm dish with 0.6db lnb. I'm sited in Bedfordshire and use a Finepass twin tuner receiver. Obviously transponder strength will vary depending on location and I do not have every transponder programmed.

Here they are:
45e 11.495V 3254
42e 11.135V 4444
39e 12.524V 27500
36e 12.695V 3030
28.2e 10.773H 22000
26e 11.919H 27500
23.5e 11.675H 27500
19e 10.832H 22000
16e 11.554V 28800
13e 10.758V 27500
10e 11.054V 4375
7e 11.175V 27500
5e 11.766H 27500
1w 11.189V 2142
5w 12.543H 27500
8w 11.556H 27500
12.5w 11.132H 3255
15w 11.494V 17464
18w 11.661H 5632
22w 11.613H 1655
27.5w 11.665V 12223
30w 12.012V 27500

AForester

A few sats missing that you might like to look for

53E, 11100V, 6000, 3/4
33E, 11472H, 30000, 5/6
4W, 10726H, 3750, 3/4
7W, 11747V, 27500, 3/4
11W, 11464V, 4340, 1/2
37.5W, 12522H, 5425, 1/2
43W, 12584V, 27500, 3/4
45W, 11510H, 26694, 5/6
58W, 11612H, 3670, 3/4

The above is FTA digital transponder information

T_G

Great stuff chaps!! Could you maybe also add to each transponder one FTA channel and details? That way it would be even better, and make it easier for the unexperienced to find the sats.

T_G I only believe stuff that comes straight from Mr. Horses mouth!

nobbystyles

Hello, theres no such transponder for 1w stored in my reciever, could you tell me a few other strong transponder's for thor please

T_G

Good work guys, keep it up

I west I got 11421 / 241501 H as a very strong transponder.
One thing I try is go to the BBC World station at 11342 / 24501 H or to any BBC World on any satellite, they seem to use a fairly strong signal anywhere, as well as being FTA

T_G I only believe stuff that comes straight from Mr. Horses mouth!

nobbystyles

I found it yeserday mate, i moved my dish 4 or 5 nudges to the west of Sirus and then manually entered the strongest transponder, i then pulled the rest of the channels in......... all i need now is some new firmware for my xcam - i wish we had AU on conax!!!

Llew

It's very low down on the Geo arc, but if you have a perfectly clear view of the eastern horizon, you might be lucky (ground noise may be a problem though)

Llew

altis

Here's my take from NW England:

53E 11044 V 29800 3/4
45E 11627 V 01320 7/8
42E 11812 H 27500 3/4
39E 12524 V 27500 3/4
36E 12686 V 04340 1/2
33E 11472 H 30000 5/6
28E 10744 H 22000 5/6
23E 11475 V 27500 3/4
19E 10773 H 22000 5/6
16E 11554 V 28800 7/8
13E 11862 H 27500 3/4
10E 11607 H 27500 5/6
07E 11471 H 30000 5/6
05E 12303 H 25548 7/8
01W 11421 H 24500 7/8
05W 12543 H 27500 3/4
08W 12649 V 27500 5/6
11W 11483 V 12800 3/4
12W 11345 H 30000 3/4
15W 11494 V 17469 3/4
22W 11675 H 05632 3/4
30W 11811 H 27500 3/4

Now that it's set up, and having played with the motor a bit, I've found it not really necessary to know which is the strongest signal. With my motor, three nudges is equal to one degree. To find a new satellite I just count nudges from the nearest known position and then do a transponder scan. While this is happening I make a note of the transponder with the best signal quality. I change to that one, tweak the position and then scan again.

dynamo985

anyone got a really current list of strongest transponders for england or in particular south england??? Would like to try and find more satellites that 7,10,13,16,19E tomorrow

Happy-Buddah

Hi dynamo985

Read this thread from the start, all the information that you require is there. All depending upon your dish size and a clear look angle you should get signals from satellites usually along the arc 45* east to 45* west.
H-B

dynamo985

i understand that those transponders were the strongest then, but ive just downloaded the latest pet123 settings onto my dreambox and some of those transponders arent listed there???

Happy-Buddah

OK dynamo985

I stand corrected, I will go back into hibernation for the rest of the winter.
Regards H-B

jakenl

Two more:


68,5 E 12722 V 26657 1/2 Love World
72,0 E 12716 V 2170 3/4 Puglia Channel

Jakenl

Fagela

@Altis
Brilliant & very helpful info. M8
particularly as I live in the Isle of Man

Regards

Fagela

Hareesh

NSS 6 95 E Indian Beam

12651 V 27500 DD India,DD Sports,Vividh Bharathi Radio (Hindi) 80/98
12732 V 27500 DD Podhigai,MH1,Gyandarshan,DD Bharathi,DD India
(Indian Languages) 80/98

The_phoenix

Hi,

One satellite seems missing: Express AM1 40°E.
The strongest signal for me is MKTV 11538 V 3125

Can you please confirm?

I'm wondering if Space TV on the same satellite (11159 V 3333) is stronger.

Cheers,

cadorna

I forgot to put with a valid extension



EAST

45,0 E *Europe*1 45*E EUROSTAR 45°E Numer 11.628 V 1.320 7/8 F Numericable M
42,0 E Turksat 1C TURKSAT 42°E 11.805 V 24.444 5/6 F CNN Turk
39,0 E Hellas 1 39°E HELLAS 39°E 12.525 V 27.500 3/4 F ERT sat
36,0 E SesatW4 36°E EUTW4 36°E 12.523 H 4.340 1/2 F LIDER
33,0 E User 3 E-Bird 11.472 H 30.000 5/6 F No Channel
30,5 E User 2 Arabsat 2B 12.620 V 27.500 3/4 F AL-MaidTV
28,0 E Astra2 28°E Astra2 MOT 10.775 H 22.000 5/6 F BBC News 24
26,0 E Arabsat 2A 26°E Arabsat a2 3a 2d 11.862 V 27.500 3/4 F Abu Dhabi
23,5 E Astra3 23°E Astra 3A 12.033 H 27.500 3/4 F Astra TEST
21,5 E User 5 Eutel W1 21¸5ºE User 5 12.726 V 2.170 3/4 F Sicilia Channel
19,2 E Astra 19°E Astra1 MOT 11.779 V 27.500 3/4 F CNN
16,0 E Eutel W2 16°E Eutelsat W2 11.027 H 2.894 3/4 F 7 Gold
13,0 E Hotbird 13°E HOTBRD MOT 11.783 H 27.500 3/4 F TVE i
10,0 E Eutel W1 10°E Eutelsat W1 11.057 V 4.375 5/6 F TgrT
7,0 E Eutel W3 7°E Eutelsat W3 11.177 V 27.500 3/4 F TVP Polonia
5,0 E Sirus 5°E Sirus 2,3 11.768 H 27.500 3/4 F YKPAIHA TPK

WEST

1,0 W Intel 707 1°W Thor 2,3 11.190 V 2.142 3/4 F Edusat
4,0 W *Amos1 4°W Amos 1 0 0 0
5,0 W Atl.Bird3 5°W ATLBRD 5°W 12.544 H 27.500 3/4 F GCS Paris
7,0 W *Nilesat 7°W Nilesat 101, 102 12.131 V 27.500 3/4 F Tele Liban
8,0 W Telecom2D 8°W ATLBRD 8ºW PROMO 11.599 H 27.500 3/4 F Kabelvis. Promo
11,0 W Expres 3A 11°W Express 11°W 11.530 V 3.254 2/3 F Comming Soon
12,5 W *Atl.Bird1 12°W ATLBRD 12,5°W 12.515 H 17.455 3/4 F LA7
15,0 W *Telstar2 15°W Telstar 15°W 12.610 H 19.279 2/3 F VOA
18,0 W Intel 705 18°W Intel 705 18°W 11.663 H 5.632 3/4 ? NBA TV
22,0 W NSS 7 21°W NSS7 22°W 11.625 H 3.000 3/4 F Roma UNO
27,5 W Intel 907 27°W Intelsat 27,5°W 11.666 V 12.223 3/4 R FIVE
30,0 W Hispasat 30°W HISPA-30W 11.813 V 27.500 3/4 F TV Galicia
43,0 W *Panamsat6 43°W Panamsat 43°W 12.614 V 1.562 7/8 F Farad Televisa
45,0 W User 1 PAS 1R 45°W 11.511 H 26.694 5/6 F CCTV 4

Attached Files

Transponders_list.zip (4.3 KB, 438 views)

Happy-Buddah

@ The_phoenix
The only transponder from that bird that I could see any activity over the weekend was 10982V 26580.
H-B

whatsthis

This is great for find the birds. I used it to get a lock on Hispasat. But now I want to fine tune the dish I'd like to know the weakest signal. That way I know I've got 'em all.

Is this a daft question ? 1 reply at a time please.

Jeff_19341

Hi whatsthis
Drape a damp tea cloth over the LNB, this will cut the signal level down and you can do your tweaking that way.

iceburn

ok here is (not necessarily the strongest but ones I do pick up very clear and if ppl remember problems I had with my system it is saying something :-))

(Does help to put location, Swansea, South Wales) will update list when I go through and see which is strongest and weakest.

42E 10.968V 86% strength 69% quality
39E 12.524V 93% / 73%
28.2E 10.803H 97% / 79%
16E 11.449H 96% / 82%
13E 11.131V 93% / 85%
7E 11.491V 94% / 72%
5E 12.073H 95% / 79%
1W 11.420H 93% / 76%
4W 10.743H 87% / 64% (slight breakup)
4W 10.762H 97% / 19% (don't get anything god knows why!)
5W 11.591V 97% / 86%
8W 11.555H 95% / 72%
12.5W 11.389H 86% / 71%
15W 11.150H 92% / 72%
22W 11.630H 85% / 66%
30W 11.731H 94% 72%

system is now Lidl crap cable, Technomate 1500CI super, .7dbLNB, Motorise .88m Traix sat dish.

rossy

4W 10.762H 97% / 19% (don't get anything god knows why!)


The reason you are getting nothing is that its not picking up any signal. The TM 1500 does that often on a Freq where there is no signal and it shows a high signal strenght but it probably is staying red on screen and also giving 19% quality in red also. Theres actually no signal but the TM shows it that way. On the other 4w you also say some slight breakup at 64%. The TM seems to have a threshold of pic/no pic in the low to mid 60's

Cheers

tesla

Is it necessary to know the strongest transpoder for every orbital position?

Every orbital position may have several beams. It is there any great difference between the strongest and the weakest transpoder? I don't think that there is any significant difference.

Furthermore, if the transpoder is out of order at the installation time? Imagine that there is a heavy rain (or a thick cloud) over the uplink station of the strongest transpoder. How can anyone manage to find the satellite?