slight movement in motor arm

fersy · 30-06-2006

i am trying to setup my system but cant seem to get the quality past 25% at the (rare) very best. i have noticed a slight movement in the motor arm which the dish attaches to is this normal or will it cause problems. it is a hh mount i am using capable of taking up to a 1.2 m dish mine is 1m

**Channel Hopper** · 30-06-2006

Make and model ?

Not all manufacturers live up to the claims of the DiSEqC capabilty with dish size, and even fewer suppliers guarantees are worthy of the paper.

fersy · 30-06-2006

it's a bigsat diseqc hh mount 100 - 120

but thats not the only strange thing ive noticed the declination table marking thingys on the dish go from 40 to 20 and the book says to take 40 minus the declination angle which in my case is 7.6 but when i set it to 32.5 the dish is tilted back quite a lot and the signals rubbish so if i tilt it forward to get the best signal its actually off the scale on the dish ive checked to see if its fitted back to front but its exactly how the instructions called for it to be fitted in fact its the only way the thing can be fitted. i have checked the latitude/elevation for the motor a hundred times and they are right so im completely stumped now

***Lancelot*** · 30-06-2006

Pictures Pictures !!!!

L.

fersy · 30-06-2006

ok back in 5 mins

fersy · 30-06-2006

here goes. gardens a bit messy but im working at it. just wondering if the hedges would be a problem but they are not much higher than the dish and about 3m away

***Lancelot*** · 30-06-2006

Hedges are OK, the 'look' angle is a lot higher than you think.
The dish looks a bit high if you are trying for 5W. Not a lot, but it doesnt take much. What transponder are you trying to set up on ??

l.

**timbo86** · 30-06-2006

Hedges will not be an issue but an trees lurking could be....

**rolfw** · 30-06-2006

No it isn't the hedge.

I aligned a similar dish the other day, what make is it? It struck me that the bracket looked to be upside down on it, but it had no mark to compare with the scale, normally the pivot bolt is at the top.

The other fact I disliked about the dish, was that like a few other cheaper dishes, you need both hands to tighten the elevation bolts, so what are you supposed to use to move the dish, a small point, but very annoying when mounting a dish at height.

fersy · 30-06-2006

no trees its clear after the hedges as for the transponder im trying for atlantic bird 3 on 5.0w

the signal is steady at 98% but the quality is fluctuating wildly between 3% - 25%

***Lancelot*** · 30-06-2006

Couldn't see the alignment mark on the dish. Is that it behind the bolt head Rolf ??

L.

**timbo86** · 30-06-2006

Yes, tighting the dish with both hands can be havoc. I find some Triax dishes to behave like this.

fersy · 30-06-2006

rolfw the dish you were setting sounds exactly like this one. the scale looks to be upside down with the pivot bolt in the bottom and you need 2 hands to tighten the bolts as for make i dont think it has one i'll check

***Lancelot*** · 30-06-2006

Is your reciever set to 11591 V S/R 20000.

Try that.

L.

**rolfw** · 30-06-2006

I don't think that there is a mark on the bracket, I couldn't see one on the other dish, but then I was just there to line it up and as I managed it without any changes it didn't matter.

***Lancelot*** · 30-06-2006

Thought this might be it, it would intersect the scale if the mount was the other way up.
Whaddya think ??

fersy · 30-06-2006

if you look to the right of the bolt on the dish fixing bracket you will see the alignment mark but as i said to get the best signal i had to move it right of the scale the whole lot looks a bit screwed up. here is a picture of my screen in case that makes any difference. lancelot i will check what the receiver is set to in a few moments cause the missus is watching stupid big brother and when its on i cant get near the telly downstairs. what are those settings the firmware or something?

fersy · 30-06-2006

yeah lancelot thats it

do you mean the actual motor mount?

***Lancelot*** · 30-06-2006

No - manual transponder settings/scan should be there on your menu somewhere mate. Or if you can look at the channels for a single satellite, then pick that transponder on AB3.

L.

***Lancelot*** · 30-06-2006

Que ?? what are we saying .

L.

**rolfw** · 30-06-2006

It actually doesn't matter too much if the bracket is upside down, as long as the dish can be set at the right declination.

fersy · 30-06-2006

the dish bracket will definitely go on that way as for the mount i am assuming its meant to go the way ive put it although as these pics from the box and instruction book show i dont think the people who manufacture it have decided yet

**timbo86** · 30-06-2006

The dish looks to be similar to a triax dish, the mount etc. Does the arm fold up??

fersy · 30-06-2006

no it goes through the dish and is bolted in at the back. they must have given me one of the aussie dishes. UPSIDE DOWN

**rolfw** · 30-06-2006

The Triax dish has a sliding method of adjustment, not pivot bolts, although the dish back plate does look slightly similar..

At fersy, wasn't questioning the motor bracket, but the dish bracket, as it is extremely unusual for the pivot not to be at the top. As I said in the earlier post though, it makes little difference, as long as the dish can be set to an appropriate declination. Are you 100% sure that you are on the correct satellite?

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