Motor Information

samukas · 05-07-2006

Hi everyone. I bought a 1,25m antenna and now i'm having trouble choosing the motor I should buy.
Acording to the infos I've read here, a 36v motor+V-Box is what's recommended.
The problem is, I think there would be too much cables lying around... It just wouln't work at my place... and It's now that cheap.
And the biggest problems is I live in Portugal, and it's very difficult to find sattelite stuff variety here.
The only thing I found avaliable here is this:

Motor Moteck SG-2100A
DiSEqC H-H Motor, digipower motor
DiSEqC 1.2 Compatible
For antennas till 120cm (140 if alluminium)
GOTO Function
High speed
Memorizes 49 positions

Is costs around 90Euro (62 uk pounds). Do you think this will work?
I have an ennourmus fear that the motor will get dammaged or that it desorientates itself... Because the antenna will be installed at the roof and it's not easy to go up there

Kind regards and I hope you can help me

**Mickha** · 05-07-2006

Hi samukas,
I personally have a 1224 heavy duty supermount motor, and it has no problem moving my 1.2M Channel Master, also you only have 1 extra wire, same as any electrical appliance, with 4 wires inside, 2 for the motor, same size as any wires that go into an electric plug, and 2 thinner, 1 for ground and 1 for pulse, once connected you never notice them.
Have a look at satellitesuperstore for pictures of the motor.
Best wishes
Mickha

**rolfw** · 05-07-2006

The moteck is not a bad motor, but I disagree with their dish size recommendations, I would say that 1m was a realistic maximum if in an exposed position.

samukas · 16-07-2006

Thanks to both for your answers.

Mickha, I went to satellitesuperstore and, if I saw the right motor you have, it is just too expensive... something around 350pounds =/

Though, I've been looking and I found a portuguese store that sells the V-BOX (it's the first time I see it in Portugal... ) and also has Telescopic Actuators (8,12,18,24 and 36")... Would this be a good solution? Is it easy to install? Thanks

***wod*** · 16-07-2006

a vbox and a 12" actuator or might need an 18" actuator would work best , as you say its going to go on the roof

samukas · 17-07-2006

Thanks, wod.
The actuator I saw is Geotrack TD18. Would this be a good motor?
Also, I searched the forum but I couldn't find any guide conserning the installation of an actuator... Does anybody know any guide? Thanks

**rolfw** · 17-07-2006

There are a couple of bits of information here

***Rob*** · 17-07-2006

As Rolf says follow T24's guide to installing your dish with an actuator, the one thing that worries me is your dish compatible with a actuator.
May be if you posted a picture of the rear of your dish we can then decide.
What is your view Rolf, or am I worrying about nothing.

To show you what I mean have posted photo of my 90cm dish.

samukas · 17-07-2006

Actually, Rob, I was worring about that too... I saw some pictures here and it didn't look like my dish... and now that I see yours, it defenitely isn't like my dish... But as soon as I can, I'll post a picture of the back of my dish so that you can see it.

Edit: added a pic of the back of my dish... it's the best I can do at the moment. Please tell me there's still hope

***Rob*** · 18-07-2006

I would say looking at your photo that your dish is an off-set dish and not compatible an actuator, but then I'm no expert and would welcome Rolf's view on this.

My dish design is quite old so may be someone has come up with a better one by now, but best to double check first.

***Lancelot*** · 18-07-2006

It's an OP120 by the look of that rear. 36V actuator or 36V H-H for that I think. Any observations Rolf ?, Youv'e stuck one of these to the wall as well as I.

L.

**rolfw** · 18-07-2006

You would need to find a polar mount for the dish if you wanted to use it with an actuator, but looking at the dish, it doesn't look as heavy as many 1.25m dishes. so you could probably use it with the Stab 120 DiseqC motor, providing that it isn't too exposed.

**rolfw** · 18-07-2006

Sorry L, was typing as you posted, on looking at it you could be right, but didn't recognise it straight away. Ih that is the case, polar mounts should be readily available.

The one I installed was a 125 and the bracket is slightly different, but the simiarities are too many for it to be anything other than a gilbertini.

Here's a picture of the 125 on a Stab 120 DiseqC and a picture of the Gilbertini polarmount.

samukas · 18-07-2006

Since the dish will be exposed (there's a lot of wind where I live, plus it will be on the roof)... I'l be looking at a polar mounts and then I'll tell you something

Thanks to all of you for your help...

Another question i'd like your opinions on... I have atached a picture of my 2 dishes, they are at the chimney... The ideia would be also to put the 125cm dish there, but I don't think I have that option (because it takes to much space), but if you are seeing some option that I'm not, please tell me something

Thanks

**Topper** · 18-07-2006

Don't even think about it unless you want an expensive chimney rebuild, roofing job Oh and probably new car roof next time the wind blows such a big dish and topples your chimney stack

***Rob*** · 18-07-2006

Don't you have a south facing wall to fix the dish too.
It doesn't have to be high, and at least on a wall it is a bit shelted from the wind.

Mind you look at the Gilbertini polarmount and then compare it to my one mine looks almost ancient in comparison, but at least I know it does work brilliantly.

Pat_2 · 23-07-2006

do NOT use a diseq motor on 1.5m dish!! it will break in very windy weather. Get a 36 V motor try _www.satelllitesuperstore.com

***Rob*** · 23-07-2006

Originally Posted by Pat_2

do NOT use a diseq motor on 1.5m dish!! it will break in very windy weather. Get a 36 V motor

It's a 1.25 metre dish not a 1.5, but even so I would go for the 36 volt motor.

samukas · 23-07-2006

I also thought about that, but I'm not a motors expert, so I don't know which is best...

If I'd bought a 36v motor I wouldn't need the polar mount right? Cause because of the dish I have, that would be a plus !

***wod*** · 23-07-2006

if its the gibertini dish 1.2metre then you could use it on a diseqc motor but it might not last long

best to get the polar mount with actuator and use a vbox to any diseqc capable reciever

samukas · 01-08-2006

The problem is that my dish is not the Gilbertini... It's a no-brand low-cost dish...

That's why I think finding a polar mount will be sort of difficult...

Correct me if I'm wrong, I can use a 36v motor in my dish exactly as it is, right?
Because if the answer is yes, than it would be the best option, I guess...

Also, at satelllitesuperstore, which 36vmotor would you recommend to my 125cm dish?

Thanks again for your help.

samukas · 06-08-2006

Can somebody please help me?

**rolfw** · 06-08-2006

If you think that you cannot find a polarmount and I'm presuming that you've checked with the sellers of the dish as to whether they can do one, then you are limited to using a motor with an armature for universal mounting to any azel dish mount. There is not a huge choice and even they are limited to 120cm dish size, motors like the Jaeger 1224 will probably not fit that dish, although it may be worth checking.

samukas · 08-08-2006

I had already contacted them but got no response... I sent them another e-mail and I was told that they have some sort of "universal polarmount" that fits any existing dish... It apparently does not subtitute the fixe-mount I already have on my dish, but is "fits" on that fixed mount, and with this, opening the possibility to an actuator installation.

It's the only this I have found that is available and probably will go for it... Do you this it's worth the shot?

Thanks again for all your help.

**rolfw** · 08-08-2006

Can't hurt to try it, you can always sell it on Ebay

if it doesn't work.

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