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09-10-2006
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My System: Echostar AD3600IPVA, White Inverto 0.3db LNB, Fibo Gregorian 1.2mtr, Skystar 2 |
Hi All, Hope you can give me some pointers regarding my dish setup.. I have spent a lot of time tweaking my dish (triax 1.1mtr, polar mount and 12" actuator) I noticed something unusual... 28.2 comes in loud and clear along with the other sats after I finish fine tuning my dish. But when I check it the next day it fluctuates a lot and there is no stable signal but the rest of the sats are fine (except 26E which I don't get it at all) even the difficult to catch 7W.... I have read so many tutorials and some are opposite the other regading the elevation and declination... There are 2 sets of readings, one on the dish and the other on the mount and needed some help with setting those 2 up... Here are my readings Latitude = 51.4681, Longitude = -0.3773 Lat = 51 degrees, 28.1 minutes North Long = 0 degrees, 22.6 minutes West Regards | ||
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09-10-2006
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| Amo Amas Amant Admin  Join Date: 18-11-2004 Location: NW England (Siberia)
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My System: IDD CI24 ECONO MM Penta 1.20 Galaxy II 1.2Mtr Polar MTG yes it has been on the arc for 21 years and is still driven by a modified wiper motor from a Ford Anglia. It's like me sometimes groans but always performs  Saved us from the black plague of ignoratio elenchi, he awaits a special badge with jugs |
Welcome to the forum olisun well 9 hours and nobody has yet answered so I'll do what I can. Firstly I have had to establish from your lat and long details that you are in London between Bath Road and Staines Road as your profile details have not been entered but I cannot see your dish on this as this picture appears to be 2005. You did not mention in your post what satellite you used to set up your dish do we take it you used 1deg West? Have you used self amalgamating tape on the F connector to the lnb? If you physically take hold of the edge of the dish and try to move it across the arc, is there any play in the mechanism? Perhaps a photo of the installation would help. Cannot really think what the solution really is until I can grasp what the problem is, please list what satellites across the arc you can get then we will take it from there.
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11-10-2006
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My System: Echostar AD3600IPVA, White Inverto 0.3db LNB, Fibo Gregorian 1.2mtr, Skystar 2 | Hi, Thanks for your response... Yes, I use 1W to setup my dish and I have still not used any tape on the F connector to the LNB because I am still setting up my dish... Regarding the play in mechanism, do you mean when all the bolts etc are screwed tightly ??? If yes, Then when my move my dish left and right there is slight in and out movement in the actuator... The dish doesn't feel very secure and tight at the actuator / polar mount end... Yesterday Actually I moved my dish slightly down reducing the count on the dish and was able to get 28.2 but not a strong signal as before.. 65% max but today morning it was fluctuating a bit because of the bad weather... Btw I can get all the visible satellites on the arc except 26E which I never got I am thinking of getting the jaeger SMG99 H-H 36v motor but I am not sure if it can take the 1.1 triax easily?? what do you think? Last edited by olisun; 11-10-2006 at 02:49 PM | ||
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| Amo Amas Amant Admin Join Date: 18-11-2004 Location: NW England (Siberia)
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My System: IDD CI24 ECONO MM Penta 1.20 Galaxy II 1.2Mtr Polar MTG yes it has been on the arc for 21 years and is still driven by a modified wiper motor from a Ford Anglia. It's like me sometimes groans but always performs Saved us from the black plague of ignoratio elenchi, he awaits a special badge with jugs |
26 E will be there if you check the correct transponder, most of them are Middle Eastern beams and not receivable here in the UK What I am asking regarding the dish movement is whether or not there is play and thus the dish is able to move slightly off satellite in winds of a certain direction, this should not happen but could if the mechanism is loose. Also you do not mention how the dish is mounted is it a tripod on the ground or a pole on a wall with T&K brackets? or is it a DIY bracket 
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13-10-2006
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My System: Echostar AD3600IPVA, White Inverto 0.3db LNB, Fibo Gregorian 1.2mtr, Skystar 2 | It's mounted on a wall with proper T&K brackets... Regarding movement there is some movement when it's windy but the dish actually doesn't move but looses the positions... Also I am using the Echostar 3600IPVA and which has a problem of the loosing the satellite positions which is not major... Also my Digisat Pro LCD meter shows good signal on 28.2 but not in the receiver... I was thinking of getting the Jaeger SMR 1224 motor but the damn thing is around 13Kgs and am looking for an alternative like the SMR-99G... Another user has posted the Alba H-H motor and I am not sure how good it is... | ||
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13-10-2006
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| Amo Amas Amant Admin Join Date: 18-11-2004 Location: NW England (Siberia)
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My System: IDD CI24 ECONO MM Penta 1.20 Galaxy II 1.2Mtr Polar MTG yes it has been on the arc for 21 years and is still driven by a modified wiper motor from a Ford Anglia. It's like me sometimes groans but always performs Saved us from the black plague of ignoratio elenchi, he awaits a special badge with jugs |
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13-10-2006
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My System: Echostar AD3600IPVA, White Inverto 0.3db LNB, Fibo Gregorian 1.2mtr, Skystar 2 | I am trying to locate 36v H-H motors which can take the triax 1.1 mtr but it is hard to find one in the UK... :-( | ||
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13-10-2006
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My System: SS1. 3.4Ghz Dual Core P4. 125cm Gibbi with Channelmaster feedhorn and Inverto C120 twin. 36v H to H  ...And thou were the truest friend to thy lover that ever bestrad horse..." | Olisun, put this number into the auction site mate. 220036707918 Rgds L. 
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14-10-2006
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My System: Echostar AD3600IPVA, White Inverto 0.3db LNB, Fibo Gregorian 1.2mtr, Skystar 2 | I had bid on the item but the damn thing is broken... I couldn't find any info on the net from where I can order the spare parts | ||
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14-10-2006
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My System: Technomate 1500 ci 90cm Gibertini Inverto Silver Tech 0.3lnb Moteck 2100A motor | Check to see your latitude and longitude settings have not been overwritten. Mine had after a little bit of my fiddling. Clive | ||
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14-10-2006
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| Nasty Dish Obsession Join Date: 01-06-2004 Location: Oxfordshire
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My System: SS1. 3.4Ghz Dual Core P4. 125cm Gibbi with Channelmaster feedhorn and Inverto C120 twin. 36v H to H ...And thou were the truest friend to thy lover that ever bestrad horse..." | Useless, avoid it Sorry about that, but no way of telling until we saw the second photo. L.
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14-10-2006
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My System: PC with Pinnacle PCTV SatCI. DVB Dream viewer. Moteck VboxII positioner. Alba H-H SA58 Motor. 90cm Prime Focus dish on home made adjustable pole. Invacom 0.3dB LNB. Apart from the LNB, all put together embarassingly cheaply mainly thanks to fleabay! |
Hi Olisun, You may be refering to me with my Alba SA58 and Vbox11. You may have read that I have a missing reed switch on mine but otherwise it works fine. It seems very sturdy and well built, so I'm pretty sure it would cope with your dish. I got both of my items off a well known auction site for a fraction of their new price (about 30%). Both were advertised as new and certainly seemed that way but I'm obviously wondering what happened to the reed switch in my Alba! A factory second maybe? If you are prepared to wait a little, good kit does come up and go for a song sometimes. Paul | ||
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16-10-2006
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vertical pole with spirit level sound wall,anchor bolts that are secure when tightened. motor set to latatude clear line of sight to required satellite. most mounts come with a chart for your area and these are checked on anysite such as the bbc or other map sites.you could have a faulty lnb or a distorted dish. to check for this use two pieces of fine string and place one across centre of dish and one vertical centre of dish both should touch in the centre of dish,otherwise the the local tip.choose a safe working height and never take risks,it takes aslong as it takesto get right.grease or waxoil the bracket u-bolts and heads,amalgamating tape the lnb and you should be fine. now the worst part finding something worth watching and reliable pirate viewing.  | |||
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