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Old 09-01-2007   #1
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Stab HH120 brand new

Isnt this STAB HH120 just rubbish? It has a lot of play - dish jumps left right in a light wind, is it made of cheap plastic inside? I keep losing Sirius 5.0E LOCK and SYNC every second with 1.2 meter dish in London. Does anyone else noticed a play in this so called best Diseqc motor? I am very disappointed.
Im using Dreambox DM7020. I want to ask Stab for full refund hehe.
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Old 09-01-2007   #2
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Yep, noticed it on the last one I installed for someone, I believe that Likvid had similar problems, it is also very slow.
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I think Stab HH120 needs a big screw at the side to fix to to position. Why they havent invented this simple feature yet.
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Originally Posted by rolfw View Post
Yep, noticed it on the last one I installed for someone, I believe that Likvid had similar problems, it is also very slow.

It's common thinking among sat people that all small DiseqC motors are made for windstill only ! Use a solid actuator to move your dish. New actuators are more quiet that old, and have proper strenght. H2H is a joy with a Vbox and a SUPERJACK ( with reed sensor ) !


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My System: Dreambox DM7025 + 90cm Fibo Dish with Moteck SG2100A mod + Inverto White 0.3dB lnb + 55cm Philips Gregorian + Stab HH-120 + modded BGSat 0.3dB lnb

I have a second-hand stab HH120 that came with one of my fibo dishes, and it is rock solid - no play in it whatsoever. Also, while cleaning it up I opened it up and had a look inside and I can tell you all the cogs etc are solid brass.

Only downside is it is slow compared to my moteck motor, butr as it is on my secondary dish it is only used rarely, so no problem.
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Originally Posted by cheeky666 View Post
Isnt this STAB HH120 just rubbish? It has a lot of play - dish jumps left right in a light wind, is it made of cheap plastic inside?
It sure is, really a crappy motor.

Tested them all and the Stab is just a nightmare when it comes to play inside.

Touch the dish on the rim and it moves back and forth at least 0.5 degrees.

Also you can't reset it at the zero position as you can with Moteck, yes you can but then you need to open the case and remove the cog and shit.

I know why there is such large slack and that is because if you have opened this motor you will notice that the bronze cog that goes into the plastic cog have too large gaps in the cogs.

That's where the play comes from, they tolerate too large tolerances at the factory.
It's a dummies motor.
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Originally Posted by Likvid View Post
It sure is, really a crappy motor.

Tested them all and the Stab is just a nightmare when it comes to play inside.

Touch the dish on the rim and it moves back and forth at least 0.5 degrees.

Also you can't reset it at the zero position as you can with Moteck, yes you can but then you need to open the case and remove the cog and shit.

I know why there is such large slack and that is because if you have opened this motor you will notice that the bronze cog that goes into the plastic cog have too large gaps in the cogs.

That's where the play comes from, they tolerate too large tolerances at the factory.
It's a dummies motor.
You guys must be talking about a different motor, coz I am able to reset to 0 by using the option in the menu of my receiver, plus there is NO plastic cogs in mine. As I said before there is absolutely no play in the motor, whereas my moteck, which has plastic cogs, does have some play in it. And before you ask, yes it is a stab HH120 motor.
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Originally Posted by _stu_ View Post
You guys must be talking about a different motor, coz I am able to reset to 0 by using the option in the menu of my receiver, plus there is NO plastic cogs in mine. As I said before there is absolutely no play in the motor, whereas my moteck, which has plastic cogs, does have some play in it. And before you ask, yes it is a stab HH120 motor.
Yes but you are talking about a software reset, i am talking about a hardware reset which you can't do with the Stab.

If the shaft isn't exactly at apex position from factory there is no way to adjust that with the Stab without opening it up, Moteck got a button for it underneath.
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is there a possibility that Stabs are produced at different factories or even cheap chinese copies were made. When I got it brand new it didnt look rock solid and of high quality - even LNB and REC connectors were not tight enough, loose and rattling. I thought this is 'the best diseqc motor'. Italians appear to produce crap as always.
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Originally Posted by cheeky666 View Post
Isnt this STAB HH120 just rubbish? It has a lot of play - dish jumps left right in a light wind, is it made of cheap plastic inside? I keep losing Sirius 5.0E LOCK and SYNC every second with 1.2 meter dish in London. Does anyone else noticed a play in this so called best Diseqc motor? I am very disappointed.
Im using Dreambox DM7020. I want to ask Stab for full refund hehe.
Can I ask what part of london are you and do you get the nordic beam? what signal you receive?
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About 3dB down on the other 5 degrees east beams. Going in and out of lock during the recent high winds though, due to play in the motor.
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My System: Fixed Gibertini 150 Dish, CM 120 on HH Supermount, 80cm on DiSEqC.
Also disappointed with new HH120

I took delivery of a new one before Christmas. It semed to work indoors next to the receiver. But on installation developed a fault. It became uncontrollable, just oscillating between 0 and my 4 deg position.

Contacted Stab, who agreed it was faulty.
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Originally Posted by Cheekykid View Post
Can I ask what part of london are you and do you get the nordic beam? what signal you receive?


Hi,

I am from London west, ealing, sirius 5.0E signal is crap, even with 1.2m, could be some remote tree in a way, will try to raise a dish higher. some transponders are ok, some are bad - intermittent signal. Dish were jumping left right probably because wind got bounced from the wall in a funny way.
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