What V-Box?

***CROSSBONES*** · 10-02-2007

I am thinking of getting another V-box II, as the nextvision v-box I have, doesn`t have a 5V output to run my Gregorian dish motor.

Which is the best Vbox with 5v output to get?

**jimbo** · 10-02-2007

I would say this one as opposed to Moteck.

Jaeger Superjack V-Box II DiSEqC Positioner

I'm surprised you didn't see these being sold on a certain 'For Sale' section crossbones.

***CROSSBONES*** · 10-02-2007

yes did see them, but only decided to get one in the last few days.

Is it only the Jaeger Superjack and moteck that have the 5v output?

**olisun** · 10-02-2007

even I want to change my nextvision v-box... it skips counts with my gregorian motor...

btw how do I connect the 5v to the greorian motor.. I have just got 4 connections going to the motor (2 for the motor and 2 for the sensors) ?

**Llew** · 10-02-2007

Not necessary if your motor uses reed switch pulsing. 5V only needed for optical switches.

Llew

***johnsattuk*** · 10-02-2007

Originally Posted by CROSSBONES

yes did see them, but only decided to get one in the last few days.

Is it only the Jaeger Superjack and moteck that have the 5v output?

I saw these advertised with 5v output, and after checking by email, I ordered one.

Surprise surprise it arrived without the 5v output. The suppliers were quite apolgetic and did try and obtain the right one, but were unable to do so.

They offered money back, but I decided to keep it as most of them have a 5v supply somewhere inside, have modded a couple in the past

If you dont want to lose guarantee or do not like messing with the innards, one of the plugtop 5v will do the job.

***johnsattuk*** · 10-02-2007

Originally Posted by olisun

even I want to change my nextvision v-box... it skips counts with my gregorian motor...

btw how do I connect the 5v to the greorian motor.. I have just got 4 connections going to the motor (2 for the motor and 2 for the sensors) ?

You need 5 connections to the Fibo motor

M1 - M2 - Ground - Pulse - 5v+

The 5v is only a few milliamps, you can run a single core taped to the main for the ground

**Orthoclipse** · 10-02-2007

There's some info on modifying a V-Box to provide +5V here:
h**p://www.vetrun.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1771

***CROSSBONES*** · 10-02-2007

Thanks, but I wont mess with the insides!

Ill try and get one with 5v output.

Llew the greg motor, does have an optical sensor, no reed

***wod*** · 10-02-2007

off topic but is the non 5volt vbox ok for actuators , jaeger 36v h2h motors ?

or do they still require the 5 volts ?

***johnsattuk*** · 10-02-2007

Originally Posted by wod

off topic but is the non 5volt vbox ok for actuators , jaeger 36v h2h motors ?

or do they still require the 5 volts ?

Runs my 1224 OK

***CROSSBONES*** · 10-02-2007

off topic but is the non 5volt vbox ok for actuators , jaeger 36v h2h motors ?

or do they still require the 5 volts

If your using a motor with a reed switch then 5volts is not required

**Llew** · 10-02-2007

Originally Posted by CROSSBONES

Llew the greg motor, does have an optical sensor, no reed

Quality kit then Crossbones. Like my actuator. No sticking reeds

Llew

***CROSSBONES*** · 10-02-2007

Quality kit then Crossbones. Like my actuator. No sticking reeds

I wouldnt call the greg motor quality, as there known to fail. One of the biggest problems with these great dishes.

Mine did have a problem, but it was the common dry joint that they had. I have a couple spare, just in case.

**olisun** · 11-02-2007

Originally Posted by johnsattuk

You need 5 connections to the Fibo motor

M1 - M2 - Ground - Pulse - 5v+

The 5v is only a few milliamps, you can run a single core taped to the main for the ground

Sorry for sound like a newbie, but does the gregorian motor (picture on the following thread) have the 5 volt connection?

fibo pics for olisun...

I could only see 4 connections or if I can use it with the 1224 (I am planning to install the 1224 in the summer) ?

***johnsattuk*** · 11-02-2007

Originally Posted by olisun

Sorry for sound like a newbie, but does the gregorian motor (picture on the following thread) have the 5 volt connection?

fibo pics for olisun...

I could only see 4 connections or if I can use it with the 1224 (I am planning to install the 1224 in the summer) ?

'Gregorian' refers only to the optical principle for the dish, I think that the motor in your pics is a 'jaeger', (others may be able to identify more accurately) which I believe was used by Fibo on later production.

The origional Fibo motor with optical sensor was like attached pics.

***CROSSBONES*** · 11-02-2007

I think you have the reed, 36v motor on your dish. Its the early version of the mount. It should work ok with the 1224.

Here`s what the other motor looks like.

EDIT:
You beat me too it john lol

***CROSSBONES*** · 11-02-2007

I would say this one as opposed to Moteck.

Jaeger Superjack V-Box II DiSEqC Positioner

I'm surprised you didn't see these being sold on a certain 'For Sale' section crossbones.

There not the 5v output

***johnsattuk*** · 11-02-2007

I have in the past looked into the possibility of converting the Fibo motor from 'optical' to 'reed' output pulse but never persued it.

There seems to be a bit of renewed interest in these dishes and motors at the moment, I now have three.

With the lack of suitable diseqc boxes with 5v out, I wondered if it would be of any interest to others if I found a fairly simple way of fitting a reed. I might make a bit more effort if there if it was not just a one off for myself.

***CROSSBONES*** · 11-02-2007

I blame this forum for the increase in popularity of the fibo!

You dont help with your back to life mods

I might be getting a 90cm

Andas you know I am after a 55cm, so ill have the full set

With the lack of suitable diseqc boxes with 5v out, I wondered if it would be of any interest to others if I found a fairly simple way of fitting a reed. I might make a bit more effort if there if it was not just a one off for myself

I would be very interested, but wouldn`t it be easier as you have said, just to mod the vbox?

***johnsattuk*** · 11-02-2007

Originally Posted by CROSSBONES

I would be very interested, but wouldn`t it be easier as you have said, just to mod the vbox?

It would be easier on a one off basis, but there are a variety of different 'V-Box's and receivers out there, some are a bit nervous about modding them, there would be guarantee issues and you would have to mod any replacement box. I am always swapping boxes and dishes about ,just for fun. And then you have to run an extra wire.

I have just bought some nice shotgun RG6 + 4wire motor, but it is only 4 wire and I would have to run an extra wire myself if I modded the box, this is one of the reasons I thought about revisiting the reed switch idea. I will look into it a little, I have some ideas about an easy way, if I can get the right bits and pieces.

Used to be able to get shotgunned cable with 5core, but havn't seen any for a while.

**olisun** · 11-02-2007

Originally Posted by CROSSBONES

I blame this forum for the increase in popularity of the fibo!

You dont help with your back to life mods

I might be getting a 90cm Andas you know I am after a 55cm, so ill have the full set

I would be very interested, but wouldn`t it be easier as you have said, just to mod the vbox?

there was one 90cm Fibo on fleabay last week but I couldn't find the Bargain dishes thread to post the details

Ebay

300074747773

***johnsattuk*** · 11-02-2007

Originally Posted by olisun

there was one 90cm Fibo on fleabay last week but I couldn't find the Bargain dishes thread to post the details

Stu - doing some recyling

Likvid · 11-02-2007

Heh...no one bought the Fibo.

I wouldn't have either without any pictures showing it's condition.

***CROSSBONES*** · 11-02-2007

Used to be able to get shotgunned cable with 5core, but havn't seen any for a while

That is what im using shotgun 5 core, but split the old coax as it was no good. Think I will have a go at modding my vbox

Yes that was one of stu`s fibo`s back on e-bay olisun.

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