Setup Guide for DiseqC motor - Pictorial

rolfw

Here ia a little pictorial setup guide.

http://www.satellite-newbie.co.uk/sat1/diseqcinstall.html


How to fit an "F" Connector

Notes about your due South satellite

Although I have used Thor 1W as my due South satellite, this is merely because the longitude of my location is actually 1W. If you are situated further East or West, then find your longitude from somewhere like www.multimap.com or www.heavens-above.com and then look at www.lyngsat.com to find the nearest satellite to your longitude.

If there is not a convenient receivable satellite at your actual due South, then pick the nearest one. To make allowance for the fact that it is not exactly due South, a satellite receiver with USALS/GoToX (once your coordinates have been entered), can send the motor to where it thinks the satellite should be and then you can use the alignment procedure as described above, the arc should then be near perfect. If your receiver or motor does not have this automatic system, manually drive the motor by an approximate amount of degrees using the scale on the motor body.

Happy dish fitting.

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CROSSBONES

Excellent guide Rolfw

Whos that guy hiding behind the dish? lol

And its not a sticky!

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Lancelot

Sad but I recognise that particular install.
Done for one of the members here I think




L.

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rolfw

LOL, very difficult to hide behind a transparent dish.

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wod

good you mention about the moteck motor bracket bolts shearing off as i nearly did that

cutting the dish bracket bolts down as that is actually a good idea as it pulled the cables out of my motor because i had the dish too high up the motor

very good guide, pointed out to me things i skipped over

CROSSBONES

I bet someone will put that on e-bay as an ebook!

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Topper

It is now unless Rolf wants to unstick it, but why should he want to hide such a good tutorial?

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Yes but you look like a pro, do you practice? or just watch too much Tim "the toolman" Taylor talking to his neightbour

Leee

rolf, I've a question as I'm about to motorise;
I'm at 8e which means 7e is my reference bird. Now do I line up on that pup at 0 on the motor? Part (most of me) thinks yes but some of me thinks no.

Ta v. muchy indeed - Lee(eeeee)

rolfw

Yes, Lee, line up on 7E, you can account for the slight offset by setting your receiver with USALS and sending your motor to 7E, that way you will have perfect due South alignment when you find 7E.

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ashleydylanbest

im just about to do my first motorised install. my question is what should be my reference satellite? my location is chester in the north west, uk. 53.192°N, 2.876°W should i use thor? also i will be using it to view french channels, are there many in the clear? any help much appreciated. great guide by the way. cleared up a lot of things for me.

rolfw

As per the answer above, use the satellite which is closest to your due South, you could use either 5W or 1W, if you are looking for French channels, then 5W is the one to go for. Remember to offset the motor slightly to account for the difference between 5W and your longitude.

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many thanks

rolfw

How to fit an F connector

Click on individual thumbnails to enlarge them

The procedure is largely the same for screw on type "F" connectors.


Strip the cable, about 1/4" on both sections

cable1.jpg

Fold back the braid (For a screw on type "F" Connector, simply now screw on until the dialectric plastic core touches the end of the connector barrel)

cable2.jpg

If you try the connector now with the foil, it may bundle up the foil as in the picture above, so strip it off

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Push on the connector with the braid still pulled back over the outer, a warm cable makes it easier

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Then crimp.
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This style of compression connector if fitted with an "O" ring, is waterproof when tightly fitted, but it is advisable to waterproof with self amalgamating tape, if no "O" ring is fitted or if you are using screw on or crimp type connectors.

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bjluv

location is N64.1, E27.7, could you kindly tell me what would be the best reference satellite? Astra 2 or Badr?

rolfw

Astra 2, good strong satellite, pick a transponder on the North beam.

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bjluv

what transponder should i take from the north beam? im a newbie remember

cdtronix

thats a nice guide there thanks, will come in useful !!!

HB13DISH

Thanks a lot rolf for this thread and for the first post with details about how to use motors.

I must admit that before reading the post, I never thought that I would have the knowledge to do anything about motorizing a dish, but now I am sure that I can.

After reading more threads about motors, I understand that there are basically two DISEQ models made by Moteck and Stab.
I was considering also a Manhattan, but then I read that it is made by Stab.

Has there been any major players in this arena apart from Moteck and Stab or better specifications and quality ?

Would the receiver be matched to the motor with all the settings and so if another similar receiver is used (or a new image is installed), the motor would have to be reset again ?

There are claims that the motor is not fixed well to the dish and therefore the dish might snap off more easily than a fixed dish and could cause accidents flying off the roof.

My problem at the moment is that I don't have at my present dwelling a lot of space movement eversince they built several high buildings around. In fact I was lucky to have a little spot for Hot Bird so a large arc would be in my dreams.
I might be able to experiment somewhere else, perhaps at friends or relatives roofs, but it will not be the same as at your own home.
So at the moment I am just trying to gather the right information and hopefully one day I can put it to practice.

rolfw

There are a couple of other makes, but most of the other ones around are clones of the Moteck, Jaeger or Stab (in fact the Moteck was originally a Jaeger clone I believe).

If a dish were to be mounted in an exposed position, then I would be inclined to limit the size to 90cm, I have not yet heard of any incidences of motor arms dropping off, but there is obviously a limit as to how much weight it is sensible to hang off of one.

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vma

Just a small comment:

On my first installation, I tried to use the satellite position closest to the true south.

Today, after a few other installations, I am of the opinion, that it is far easier, to manually rotate the motor to 13.0E and search for Hotbird. The advantage is that this satellite has a) a stronger signal and b) still has a few analog TV channels, maken the alignment easier for those who don't have access to a spectrum analyzer.

Cheers,
vma

Robbo

I agree, it can be easier for newbs to find Hotbird, and I have done the same. But I additionally would wack it round to 1W( my nearest south) and re-adjust if necessary. Not doing it at the top of the arc, is not as accurate, as it is easier to centre the dish on the beam, at the top of the arc.

r1chard06

Very good set of instructions just have couple of questions.
Wot do you recomend as a good lnb.
Wot is the diffrence in lnbs.
My long is 1:19:10W.
My lat is 53:25:58N.
Do i just use first 4 digits of lat and 3 digits of long.
And wot is nearist satelite to me am i right in thinking thor at 1w.

Robbo

Have a search of the forum, or start a new topic.
You may need to convert the values to decimal, and then put in as many digits as the receiver will allow and still look correct. eg 51.25N not 512.5N

Yes it is 1W since your longitude is 1:19:10W.

Robbo

r1chard06

Thanks im new to this forum thing and satelite