Testing New White Sly UK Card - CAID 963

**B16MCC** · 14-06-2009

lol, yeah must have mate.

**father ted** · 14-06-2009

ok guys this is much appreciated thsi is a copy of my newcs file i have installed on my box could you look it over and see if you can spot anything was up till about 030 this morning and not sure if its right ,i have put my boxkeys in but as you will see i have * them out also at the top of page i have said where i put my ip of box

N: localhost 10001 dummy dummy 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 this is what i have in my cccam file and only this is this right?

***sonic1*** · 14-06-2009

N line needs to be like this assuming you use the lower card slot

N: 192.168.*.* 10001 Nabilo NabiloPWD 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14

Replace the * with your box ip and also where you see the Nabilo user and pass change au from on to off

Test and let us know how it goes

**father ted** · 14-06-2009

Originally Posted by sonic1

N line needs to be like this assuming you use the lower card slot

N: 192.168.*.* 10001 Nabilo NabiloPWD 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14

Replace the * with your box ip and also where you see the Nabilo user and pass change au from on to off

Test and let us know how it goes

ok done as you said replaced those things but still the same nothing

**B16MCC** · 14-06-2009

If you've still no joy then I suggest you simply use the examples I posted in post 36 of this thread.

All you have to change is the IP address of your box at the top of the newcs.xml then add the entry to your CCcam config depending which reader you are using.

Also, as I said break down your testing. Are you using the NewCS web interface ? If so can you see the card ?
Are you using CCcamphpinfo ? If so, is it showing your NewCS server online ?

**father ted** · 14-06-2009

Originally Posted by B16MCC

If you've still no joy then I suggest you simply use the examples I posted in post 36 of this thread.

All you have to change is the IP address of your box at the top of the newcs.xml then add the entry to your CCcam config depending which reader you are using.

Also, as I said break down your testing. Are you using the NewCS web interface ? If so can you see the card ?
Are you using CCcamphpinfo ? If so, is it showing your NewCS server online ?

ok ive followed your instructions and got it working i changed a few things nothing serious but its going just need to know where i put share lines in for my duaghter do they still go into cccam file ?

**B16MCC** · 14-06-2009

Well, you have a choice.

1. You can add an F line for your daughter to CCCam. However, your daughters box will see the sly card at 2 hops, but to be honest it should be fine.
2. You can add users directly to NewCS using the web interface and then put an N line in your daughters config.

It really doesn't matter in this case. I would go for F and C lines in CCcam. Leave your newcs alone...

GMAN6 · 14-06-2009

Does this mean i can leave all my peers with the c:lines i gave them or will i have to send them new N:lines once i start using newcs?

Originally Posted by B16MCC

Well, you have a choice.

1. You can add an F line for your daughter to CCCam. However, your daughters box will see the sly card at 2 hops, but to be honest it should be fine.
2. You can add users directly to NewCS using the web interface and then put an N line in your daughters config.

It really doesn't matter in this case. I would go for F and C lines in CCcam. Leave your newcs alone...

**nanochickin** · 14-06-2009

You can do but they will see your local as hop 2 not hop1.

Some of your peers might not like that

lakiluk · 14-06-2009

Hello to all! 2 weeks ago my friend got the new white card and he put the card in original s** box. He create newcs.xml file put boxkey with boxkey converter (he has use serial from menu of the box) and with newcs he started the card. Card work ok. Few days ago he got one month free movie and sport channels but problem is that these channels work only in original s** box, newcs cant decode that channels. Can someone please help because he plan to buy movie and sport channels in near future. I heard rummor that when you put new card in original box you lost movie and sport channels but as i see on pictures in these tread newcs read sky sport even after card was pull out from original box. Thanks and best regards from Serbia!

***tomthebomb1968*** · 15-06-2009

Sky will have sent updates to his card for these new channels, but he will have his updates turned off in his newcs xml so that he can use the white card in his linux box, He needs to put the white card into the original sky box, get the updates and then put it back in his linux box,

LowNoiseBloke · 15-06-2009

Been following this thread with much interest since the start - and thanks to B16MCC for kicking it off and sharing his findings with us. I'm not a total newbie in this area but I can't claim to be an expert on all the details of newcs etc..Some parallels with newcamd/betad come to mind. However some naive questions do arise as well. Given that newcs 1.66 is now showing some promise with the new white cards why does anyone need to combine it with cccam which has a c/s feature all of it's own ?. Whats wrong with newcs and mgcamd for example ?. In addition I'm not clear in my own mind why a total block of emms is needed. Finally has anyone considered that the current situation could change when all of the blue cards have been replaced ?. I think I shall be dusting off the digibox soon and re-tutoring the inmates in its peculiar ways. Regards to all.

**B16MCC** · 15-06-2009

Hi there. I've got to agree with everything you say. Firstly, there's no reason why you can't use any other client software that can connect to newCS, the only reason people use CCcam is because of its popularity and its probably what they've been using for ages.

This method is a quick fix in my opinion , its widely expected the card entitlements will not update and therefore this is not a final arrangement. Things could change again ofcourse when 961 is switched off !
Lastly, I guess everyone is waiting to see if Uvadi team reply to NewCS team with a new version of CCcam. NewCS came to fore once more when sly Italia went NDS3, it didn't take long before Uvadi retorted and again removed the need for NewCS. I for one would like to see this as I'd much rather just run the one softcam/server package.

LowNoiseBloke · 16-06-2009

Thanks B16MCC for that insight. I was not aware of the doubts about the ability of software to update the new white cards. Caution must rule of course especially after the reports of card burn-outs in Italy. It must have been a year or more before I took the plunge with newcamd and then not with my main sub card !.

lone · 17-06-2009

Sly cannot be switching off till at least the end of september, I have just received two of my multiroom cards, they say they will post the other two during september.
regards lone

darrenob · 21-06-2009

Thats right the roll out will be complete mid September, but most of the blue cards will start to stop working in the 2nd week in August unless they are still allowing them to update which i don't think they will.

***tomthebomb1968*** · 22-06-2009

Mine are updated now till 17/08/09

darrenob · 22-06-2009

mine will stop on the 09/08/09 i think we will find that none will last past sept 09,

healeydave · 26-06-2009

Really clever timing for Sky isn't it, changing cards over the summer season.

We are going on holiday in a few weeks time, no signs of cards yet.

I've already got visions of coming back to all my scheduled recordings over 3 weeks being stuck with some daft message on the screen saying , "Please switch to the new card" :-(

**B16MCC** · 26-06-2009

Chaps, we have no way of knowing when the old cards will go off, nor when you'll get your new one. I don't have mine at home either yet. This thread was started to investigate how we might use the new card in the dreambox, lets keep it as a tech. thread please and not hijack it with speculation and opinion. Cheers guys.

drumcode · 28-06-2009

I'm getting increasingly scared about frying the chip on my new white card. After two days of having the card in my DM500s, I reinserted it into the official receiver and first got a message about "problems with smartcard" before it finally accepted it.

Someone's suggested changing 357mhz to 600mhz.

I'd be grateful if others could share their experience, please.

This is the Newcs.xml I'm using:

<newCSconfig>

<readers name="Card Readers">
<device>
<name>lower</name>
<type>Sci</type>
<node>/dev/sci0</node>
<export>yes</export>
<enabled>yes</enabled>
<blocksa>yes</blocksa>
<blockua>yes</blockua>
<blockga>yes</blockga>
<boxkey>****</boxkey>
<PTShandshake>no</PTShandshake>
<crypto-special>no</crypto-special>
<carddetect>yes</carddetect>
<newcamd_port>10001</newcamd_port>
<priority>round</priority>

</device>

<device>
<name>upper</name>
<type>Sci</type>
<node>/dev/sci1</node>
<export>yes</export>
<enabled>yes</enabled>
<blocksa>yes</blocksa>
<blockua>no</blockua>
<blockga>yes</blockga>
<boxkey>****</boxkey>
<PTShandshake>no</PTShandshake>
<crypto-special>no</crypto-special>
<carddetect>yes</carddetect>
<newcamd_port>10000</newcamd_port>
<priority>round</priority>

</device>
</readers>

<radegastserver>
<enabled>no</enabled>
</radegastserver>
<cache>
<emm>10</emm>
<ecm>10</ecm>
</cache>

<newcamdserver>
<enabled>yes</enabled>
<name>cardserver</name>
<deskey>01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14</deskey>
<userfile>/tmp/users.txt</userfile>
<user>
<spider>off</spider>
<rate>1</rate>
<sidoverride>off</sidoverride>
<status>access</status>
<name>newcs</name>
<password>newcs</password>
<au>on</au>
<allow>lower</allow>
<allow>upper</allow>
</user>

</newcamdserver>

</newCSconfig>

drumcode · 28-06-2009

I'm trying to make a post asking about the dangers of frying the chip on my new white card but for some reason it's not working.

I'll insert my xml as code this time!

I had my white card in my DM500s for two days solid and when I put it back into the orginal receiver I first got a message about problems with my viewing card before I eventually got it working again.

Could you please share your experience with the new white card? Someone suggested changing 357mhz to 600mhz.

Here's my current xml:

Code:

<newCSconfig>

<readers name="Card Readers">
<device>
<name>lower</name>
<type>Sci</type>
<node>/dev/sci0</node>
<export>yes</export>
<enabled>yes</enabled>
<blocksa>yes</blocksa>
<blockua>yes</blockua>
<blockga>yes</blockga>
<boxkey>****</boxkey>
<PTShandshake>no</PTShandshake>
<crypto-special>no</crypto-special>
<carddetect>yes</carddetect>
<newcamd_port>10001</newcamd_port>
<priority>round</priority>

</device>

<device>
<name>upper</name>
<type>Sci</type>
<node>/dev/sci1</node>
<export>yes</export>
<enabled>yes</enabled>
<blocksa>yes</blocksa>
<blockua>no</blockua>
<blockga>yes</blockga>
<boxkey>****</boxkey>
<PTShandshake>no</PTShandshake>
<crypto-special>no</crypto-special>
<carddetect>yes</carddetect>
<newcamd_port>10000</newcamd_port>
<priority>round</priority>

</device>
</readers>

<radegastserver>
<enabled>no</enabled>
</radegastserver>
<cache>
<emm>10</emm>
<ecm>10</ecm>
</cache>

<newcamdserver>
<enabled>yes</enabled>
<name>cardserver</name>
<deskey>01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14</deskey>
<userfile>/tmp/users.txt</userfile>
<user>
<spider>off</spider>
<rate>1</rate>
<sidoverride>off</sidoverride>
<status>access</status>
<name>newcs</name>
<password>newcs</password>
<au>on</au>
<allow>lower</allow>
<allow>upper</allow>
</user>


</newcamdserver>

</newCSconfig>

**B16MCC** · 28-06-2009

OK mate, firstly changing the clock speed to 600 is only gonna make your card run hotter.

Secondly, you're running a config for a Dreambox with 2 readers, but of course your DM500 only has 1 internal reader. I'm pretty sure the single reader boxes address them as /dev/sci1 and therefore in your config thats labelled as the Upper card reader. You have the blockua set to NO for this reader. Change this to Yes and see how you go.

Guys, I need to confirm this for my NewCS / CCcam Config Creator. Is the slot in the 500 / 600 /dev/sci1 ?
Someone please confirm this.. Thanks.