sm@rtcam for idiots / Problems with Hydra

T_G

I have finally tried the newer version of Hydra (Atlantis) because I was sich having to change the EMUs all the time when going from Taquilla to TPS for instance.
I did not understand how this works, I just can't make it work so it will stay with scam for the scam channels or providers and with something else for the others.

I would be very happy if someone could give me a detailed how to on this, it is driving me insane!!!

TG

T_G I only believe stuff that comes straight from Mr. Horses mouth!

rolfw

Better still T_G, see if there is a Black Tiger version for your DB, the only EMU it needs is Newcamd.

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T_G

so how does it deal with sky italy etc?

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BGonaSTICK

Hi T_G,


I can get S2 on 19 AND S2 on 13 both working with EITHER newcamd or scam, but you might well need the latest versions.

Have you got the s*ftcam menu with the 'sticky' buttons on it?

Exactly wot version are you on? I'm not sure it compares directly with the 7000S.

rolfw

The Newcamd I'm using gets them all with no switching and was getting Conax as well until it changed.

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BGonaSTICK

I updated scam and newcamd yesterday, only for the hell of it, as the old ones worked fine (as do the new ones) with both S2 packages. I find the 'sticky' business a real load of pants. Totally illogical.

As I remember it, you have to switch to the channel/provider you want to differ from the default CAM, change the default cam to the one you want for those channels, set both channel and package buttons to 'stick' and hit the green button. Then, make sure you 'unstick' the channel and the package buttons, set the default CAM back to what you want it to be, and hit the green button.

You end up with your default CAM back how it was, but when you switch to your non-standard channel, it starts the other CAM, and reports 'starting othercam (sticky)'.

Go figure

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MacAddict

hmm I can only get sly italy to open with scam and not newcamd, have latest as available from hydra control panel. I do find the switching to sticky a bit annoying but does not upset me. TG you dont have a 7000s ?

T_G

Naaah I got the small 5620. And I switched back to the old Hydra Dianne. That one at least works better. I will wait until something reasonable comes along....

I would try to insert the newcam into the Hydra, but don't know how and don't know what files I need. Maybe someone could help me here??

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MacAddict

you should get 5.14 newcamd through control panel. I am still not sure why the switch bothers you if you made the providers stick on an emu.

spock_uk

Hi all, My dreambox arrived on Friday, after work I took it out of Box, replaced my trusty Humax 5300 with it and switched on.
1 hour later I put the latest official image on 1.08. Didn't do a great deal but my home network works (DHCP on latest image)
I thought, I'll put on the latest Hydra image (atlantis 108_final) while I'm having my tea.
and look at some decrypted channels later.
Shit, it loaded BUT I couldn't get a signal over the Sat!! any Sat!
It was working before .. all Satellites..
Shit!! What have I done wrong? I reflashed the image and...
same again... Tried another image RUDream (108_rd_v20040723.1449 )
This was better.. but... time for bed 1.00 am!

Next morning...early oh! the excitement

Still problems with the network and the so I tried another image
(hydra7000_olympia) No satellites again...

Put the official release back on (after checking the motor is OK by installing the trusty Humax box again)
This works... got all Sats.
F**k it, I'll try a different image (emu_rel108_040702.img)

worked, but problem with the network...

I'm now trying the next image (SF Team img v108_8 for DB7000 02/07/2004) and it seems to be working OK All satellites set . As I'm writing this it is doing a all transponder scan on all satellites.
The question I have is about these large birds (EMUs). Just how do they work within the images?
Well no-one said it was going to be easy!!
Thanks in advance. I just love these Dreamboxes. Luckily I have nothing else to do and no wife!!

BGonaSTICK

Well, sounds like you now have more experience than all of us put together!

I'm guessing, but I think that Altantis 1.08 Final is the most popular, so why not get it sorted?

After flashing, you need to press and hold the top left button on the Dreambox as soon as the Hydra boot-up logo appears. Keep it pressed until you get the 'flash erase' message on the LCD, then set up from scratch. Make sure to get the motor settings set up right from the word go (in the initial setup).

STICK

MacAddict

I am trying ruCannon 5 today, so far so good. stable and channel switching time has improved over the hydra atlantis. Also much more settings to play with and I like the keys layout and fonts . With this image, newcamd seems to open most of what i want so less of the annoying emu switch.

BGonaSTICK

Hi m8,

Is the emu-sticky config. just as bad, or is it better in this image?

Wot's the online update like... easy as Hydra?

spock_uk

Well since then I've reloaded the image 8 times via null modem (I was doing some ironing) I thought I'd cracked it when SF teanms image decided to try and move the motor to 146 W. Well it hits the wall at 55W so I had to pull the plug... and then put another image in... not receiving the signal... and then the official release 1.08 worked perfect..., so another image... I'm trying ruCannon 5 how, see that goes... I'm getting a bit p****d of now and thinking of sending it back. But then I think "well, it's only a computer" "I CAN fix it...". I do build and fix old computers so I know it s**t job, but I do enjoy it. Well I'll tell you all about ruCannon (will it work this time. The tension is killing me.

Later

BGonaSTICK

Whoa, that's given me a headache just reading it. Too much, too many. Must... lie.... down....

MacAddict

came with keys

BGonaSTICK

Wot I mean is, can you update the keys over the internet using the menus/remote?

MacAddict

yes, aslo comes with keys viwer, converter and maybe an editor too. So far I am impressed by the 'expert' options. Therfe is a card sharing emu in there too. I asmue with a server IP already added . Not tried that though and I am not sure if I will.

T_G

Hey Spok

Just a short one: It seems all the images other than the original one have issues with the automatic searching etc. I put mine in manually and then store the position...

It is not the dreambox but more likely the images.

I am trying tomorrow the first I have a Dreambox image for 56xx!! If they are as good as the 7000 then I am going to be a happy chap!!

TG

T_G I only believe stuff that comes straight from Mr. Horses mouth!

spock_uk

Just to keep you up to date with my installation of a Dreambox DM7000S

1) The std image is great. works fine & set up is easy. Good network. Finds all Sats and all channels a joy to use BUT no softcams, so no good to me
2) Non standard images are "difficult"
3) I have tried to install all of the major ones aand a few lesser known ones.
4) ruCannon is easiest to use (softcam use etc) network settings are poor based on 1.07 release but overall v.good
5) Hydra 1.08 Final. Excellent, Good network set up. Fairly easy Sat setup. Fair softcam reasonable for all channel viewing

I have reinstalled with null modem a total of 15 times so I feel I know a little about setting a dreambox up from scratch (and I haven't even looked at the system itself. It has just crashed the system again, but I tink that was my fault, pissing about with the remote between channels and favorites and the likes. I am reinstalling Hydra again, as that's the best one for me as far as setting up is concerned.

A question
How can I save all the Satellite settings and channels so I can just reload them on after it crashes and I have to reflash.
It not auto find the Satellites and I have to manually set them.
I have a hardisk 120 MB fitted. Can I save the setting to that as a backup? or by FTP?

spock_uk
Why do it the easy way when there is a more hard way?
Its does not compute ...

T_G

Hi Spock

It's logical mate: go to my idiot guide
http://www.satellites.co.uk/php-bin/...74&postcount=4
and read all about the Dreamboxedit prog. This is what I use, and it is a great little thing. I have attached my settings, you could try it out and load it onto your dreambox next time you have put in a new image. You can also load up my settings, then compare it to what you got on your box (Go to Tools, Compare loaded services ....). It will then give you options how to sort it all out so you got the whole lot. As long as you keep a backup once in a while you'll be ok

Now I am not sure how it works with a 7000 and hard drive, as I only got a 5620 connected to a computer, there it takes something like 15 seconds.

Maybe some of the others can give you a hand with that?

TG

T_G I only believe stuff that comes straight from Mr. Horses mouth!

spock_uk

Hi T_G
Thanks for that, I have read your very good "getting started" guide, but what I need is to be able to restore the Satellite positions if possible. I have to set the positions every time I flash a new image and then restore the channels. Is there any way I can backup and restore these settings?
I cannot get the DreamFlashLan utility to work either, is there another way to flash a new image apart from the null modem?
I am getting quite the expert at reflashing images, I have tried all the major images and I like the ruCannon images the best the emu setup is very easy to set up and very usable.
I have tried the double enigma image but there is not enough room in memory for the two images. Am I doing something wrong with this do you know?
Hydra is good but I find the EMU system in ruCannon excellent. That may change as I try other images. When I get my head round installing DreamFash
(I haven't tried it yet as ruCannon is using rel 1.07 and the rest of the new image files are on rel 1.08 and you can't mix them on the same DreamFlash release)
But when ruCannon gets updated to 1.08 I'll give it a go and maybe write an idiots guide in setting it up for anyone else who wants to take the plunge.

Another question. How do you get the card slots to work?. I have a CAM module fitted but could I use the card slots instead? Its a Magic CAM and I also have a Irdeto CAM. If I can get the card slots to work I can sell them with the Humax box I have now decided to get rid of now I've come to terms with the dreambox

Spock_uk

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