Cannot FTP to my 500 with DCC STRANGE!!!!

cesco · 25-06-2009

good afternoon to everyone,
I have a db 500 pvr and i am using sh...
if i try to log in through the internet explorer or firefox it works fine, i input the id and password and it logs in but when i try with the dcc and i input the ip address (static), id and password first it logs in and the then the ftp icon goes red and the telnet icon remains green!!!
if i try with the cmd from my vista first it logs in then it gives me this message:
busybox v1.01(2007.08.23-20:51+0000) Built-in shell (ash)
enter help for a list in commands

and when i enter help it gives me a list of things!!!

I have a db 600 and i manage to log in without any problems
i have gemini v4 installed on both of them,
can someone pls help me!!!!

thanks in advance
cesco

**teide_ian** · 25-06-2009

I have only had this when i have put the wrong password in the ftp goes red.

cesco · 25-06-2009

the thing is that when i log in from the ie i go in with the same password i try from the dcc!!!
it is strange!!
and what is busybox
i only get it on the 500, on the 600 everything goes smooth!!
rgds
cesco

***compufunk*** · 25-06-2009

Have you tried an FTP connection using another application?

Try connecting with Explorer. Type the following into either the windows run dialogue or the explorer address bar. (Not Internet Explorer, use the file browser.)

ftp://YourDreamIP

If that doesn't work try resetting the password by typing 'passwd' at the command prompt.

cesco · 26-06-2009

i manage to log in my db600 with the vista explorer application but when i try to log in my 500 it doesn't let me, it says wrong user id and password

the strange thing is that i can log in to my 500 with the same id and password from the ie but from an ftp application no!!!
what can i do??
thks
cesco

**HB13DISH** · 26-06-2009

Try changing the IP's.
Is the 500 and 600 IPs the same?
Disable firewall and antivirus for a short period and try connecting with an FTP application like Core FTP Lite.
There might be security issues that are preventing the connection.

***compufunk*** · 26-06-2009

Originally Posted by cesco

what can i do??

Originally Posted by compufunk

......try resetting the password by typing 'passwd' at the command prompt.

also, again at the command prompt type .......

Code:

more /etc/services | grep ftp

Copy the output and post it here. This will tell us if FTP is not running on its standard port.

cesco · 26-06-2009

Originally Posted by HB13DISH

Try changing the IP's.
Is the 500 and 600 IPs the same?
Disable firewall and antivirus for a short period and try connecting with an FTP application like Core FTP Lite.
There might be security issues that are preventing the connection.

Hi HB13Dish
I've tried wit core ftp lite and this is what i am getting, even with the flash ftp and the dcc software :

"Welcome to Core FTP, release ver 2.1, build 1607 (U) -- © 2003-2009
WinSock 2.0
Mem -- 2,097,151 KB, Virt -- 2,097,024 KB
Started on Friday June 26, 2009 at 13:44:PM
Connect socket #660 to 192.168.2.102, port 21...
220 Willkomen auf Ihrer Dreambox.
USER root
331 Please specify the password.
PASS **********
500 OOPS: chdir"

I switched off the firewall and all antivirus etc etc etc
and re ip addresses, both of them have static ip addresses (tried with dhcp as well)
and I already change the ip address and passwd, but no luck on the 500!!
thks
cesco

cesco · 26-06-2009

Originally Posted by compufunk

also, again at the command prompt type .......
Code:
more /etc/services | grep ftp
Copy the output and post it here. This will tell us if FTP is not running on its standard port.

hi compufunk
thks but i didn't understand the code you wrote can you pls confirm as i am getting an error when inputing it in the cmd
thks
cesco

cesco · 26-06-2009

and even without a password i am getting this :

"busybox v1.01(2007.08.23-20:51+0000) Built-in shell (ash)
enter help for a list in commands"

thks
cesco

**HB13DISH** · 26-06-2009

Originally Posted by cesco

Hi HB13Dish
I've tried wit core ftp lite and this is what i am getting, even with the flash ftp and the dcc software :

"Welcome to Core FTP, release ver 2.1, build 1607 (U) -- © 2003-2009
WinSock 2.0
Mem -- 2,097,151 KB, Virt -- 2,097,024 KB
Started on Friday June 26, 2009 at 13:44:PM
Connect socket #660 to 192.168.2.102, port 21...
220 Willkomen auf Ihrer Dreambox.
USER root
331 Please specify the password.
PASS **********
500 OOPS: chdir"

I switched off the firewall and all antivirus etc etc etc
and re ip addresses, both of them have static ip addresses (tried with dhcp as well)
and I already change the ip address and passwd, but no luck on the 500!!
thks
cesco

Sorry to hear this.
I can't think of any other possible suggestion, except (I hope we can still be friends

), REFLASH the box and have a clean setup.
If you are the master of your box (meaning you are not depending on a 3rd party), then it might be worth it.
Please tell us again why do you need to FTP?

***compufunk*** · 26-06-2009

Download Putty here... _http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/putty.exe

Run putty and type the dreambox IP in the box marked in red, then click open.

Cannot FTP to my 500 with DCC STRANGE!!!!-putty-jpg

When prompted, enter your username and password.

Then copy and paste the commands I gave you into the putty terminal. (right click with your mouse to paste.)

Please upload a screengrab of what you see when you log in with IE.

cesco · 26-06-2009

Originally Posted by HB13DISH

Sorry to hear this.
I can't think of any other possible suggestion, except (I hope we can still be friends ), REFLASH the box and have a clean setup.
If you are the master of your box (meaning you are not depending on a 3rd party), then it might be worth it.
Please tell us again why do you need to FTP?

i need to ftp box so that i install the vlc 1.3 on it as i cannot find it from the gemini server, like this i can play all movies which i have on the pc and to be in control of the box, like for ex. updating channel list with boxedit etc etc.
re flashing, no i cannot as i am using sh... so if i flash i will loose all data, including the cam which is not the one you download from the gemini server but it's a strange one!! (custom made)
thks for now will keep on trying as i never give up
rgds
cesco
p.s. and yes we will still be friends don't worry

cesco · 26-06-2009

Originally Posted by compufunk

Download Putty here... _http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/putty.exe

Run putty and type the dreambox IP in the box marked in red, then click open.
Attachment 22606
When prompted, enter your username and password.

Then copy and paste the commands I gave you into the putty terminal. (right click with your mouse to paste.)

Please upload a screengrab of what you see when you log in with IE.

Hi Compufunk
when i try to log in the db500 with putty it tells me

putty fatal error
network error network refused

and when i tried with the db600 i logged in without problems and i managed to copy your code and i got all this info

root@dm600pvr:~> more /etc/services | grep ftp
ftp-data 20/tcp
ftp 21/tcp
tftp 69/udp
sftp 115/tcp
ftps-data 989/tcp # FTP over SSL (data)
ftps 990/tcp
venus-se 2431/udp # udp sftp side effect
codasrv-se 2433/udp # udp sftp side effect
frox 2121/tcp # frox: caching ftp proxy
zope-ftp 8021/tcp # zope management by ftp

b.t.w. what is this message i get when i try to telnet
busybox v1.01(2007.08.23-20:51+0000) Built-in shell (ash)
enter help for a list in commands

what is busybox?
is it a type of firewall or filtering?
thks
cesco

***compufunk*** · 26-06-2009

Busy box is just an environment for running commands from.

Post up a screen grab of your dreambox's network settings.

Unfortunately your running out of options. It appears a SSH server is not even running on the box, or is at least not accepting connections on the default port. The FTP problem is probably similar.

Its looking more and more like you are going to have to flash a new image to the box. Obviously you'll lose all settings if you do this.

**HB13DISH** · 26-06-2009

Originally Posted by cesco

i need to ftp box so that i install the vlc 1.3 on it as i cannot find it from the gemini server, like this i can play all movies which i have on the pc and to be in control of the box, like for ex. updating channel list with boxedit etc etc.
re flashing, no i cannot as i am using sh... so if i flash i will loose all data, including the cam which is not the one you download from the gemini server but it's a strange one!! (custom made)
thks for now will keep on trying as i never give up
rgds
cesco
p.s. and yes we will still be friends don't worry

Thanks for the info. I understand your problem better now.
Strange about VLC not showing in the Gemini server. Should be under Plugins (at least this is where I got it for my Dreambox 7000S. Can't remember which version though).
As for updating channel list, I do it the hard way with Bouquets creation, and Edit and Move options from the Menu buttons. It is dead easy once you try it.
The only times I need FTP is for copying recorded files from HDD to PC.
Never used BoxEdit or any other applications as I regard my receiver as a small computer and try to do everything using IT.
Anyway, glad to see that you never give up. I am sure that you will get there in the end with persistence and perseverance.
One more suggestion, try a direct connection between the 500S and the PC (disconnect it from the internet and router. You might need to change the IP of the box to be close to the IP of the PC Network card (not the router's). You can take a break from sh....
Also try to change the password (just for testing) to the standard values : dreambox and I understand that the user is still : root
Good luck

cesco · 26-06-2009

Originally Posted by HB13DISH

Thanks for the info. I understand your problem better now.
Strange about VLC not showing in the Gemini server. Should be under Plugins (at least this is where I got it for my Dreambox 7000S. Can't remember which version though).
As for updating channel list, I do it the hard way with Bouquets creation, and Edit and Move options from the Menu buttons. It is dead easy once you try it.
The only times I need FTP is for copying recorded files from HDD to PC.
Never used BoxEdit or any other applications as I regard my receiver as a small computer and try to do everything using IT.
Anyway, glad to see that you never give up. I am sure that you will get there in the end with persistence and perseverance.
One more suggestion, try a direct connection between the 500S and the PC (disconnect it from the internet and router. You might need to change the IP of the box to be close to the IP of the PC Network card (not the router's). You can take a break from sh....
Also try to change the password (just for testing) to the standard values : dreambox and I understand that the user is still : root
Good luck

thks hb13dish
i tried the direct method but no success
will keep on trying later as my wife just came from work so i must stop playing with my little toys!!!
will keep you updated how it went
thks for all the info, it's always a pleasure talking to you and compufunk, you are the best, helpinng newbies like us

rgds
cesco

cesco · 26-06-2009

Originally Posted by compufunk

Busy box is just an environment for running commands from.

Post up a screen grab of your dreambox's network settings.

Unfortunately your running out of options. It appears a SSH server is not even running on the box, or is at least not accepting connections on the default port. The FTP problem is probably similar.

Its looking more and more like you are going to have to flash a new image to the box. Obviously you'll lose all settings if you do this.

these are my network settings for my db500
thks compufunk

Cannot FTP to my 500 with DCC STRANGE!!!!-screenshot-jpg

***compufunk*** · 26-06-2009

Thanks, there doesn't seem to be anything out of place there.

Can you give us a bit more detail as to where the box came from. Did you configure it yourself, or did it come as part of a card share deal? The reason I ask is because if the later is the case, there may have been some blocks put in place to stop users accessing these features.

I'f I think of anything else, I get back to you.

You could try doing a backup of all your settings using the built in script, then reflash and reload your settings.

cesco · 26-06-2009

Originally Posted by compufunk

Thanks, there doesn't seem to be anything out of place there.

Can you give us a bit more detail as to where the box came from. Did you configure it yourself, or did it come as part of a card share deal? The reason I ask is because if the later is the case, there may have been some blocks put in place to stop users accessing these features.

I'f I think of anything else, I get back to you.

You could try doing a backup of all your settings using the built in script, then reflash and reload your settings.

i bought it with nabilo installed but then i put gemini 4.2 and it was working fine
then i did sh.. and the guy installed gemini 4.0 and since then it started with the problem
the strange thing is that the 600 is with the sh.. as well with the same guy but i manage to log in ???!!!
boqqqqq
i cannot understand
how can i do a good backup pls so i try to flash it and re install gemini 4.2
?

how can i do a backup of all your settings using the built in script, and reload your settings.

thks compufunk
rgds
cesco

***compufunk*** · 26-06-2009

On the image I have, under Blue Panel -> Extras / Setup. There is an option to create a backup. I'm not sure if the backup will include your CCcam.cfg file or not.

It being a DM500 with no local storage, you'll need to save the backup to a network drive / mount.

If you know the contents of CCcam.cfg, there is no need to run the back up at all. Just flash with a new image and load the settings from your DM600 to your DM500 using DreamboxEdit. That way you wont lose your favourites lists.

Then install CCcam and add the appropriate lines to the CCcam.cfg file.

cesco · 26-06-2009

thks compufunk will try to do so tomorrow
will keep you updated with the outcome i hope everything will work smoothly

good night and thks for everything
rgds
cesco

**HB13DISH** · 27-06-2009

Originally Posted by cesco

thks compufunk will try to do so tomorrow
will keep you updated with the outcome i hope everything will work smoothly

good night and thks for everything
rgds
cesco

Good morning cesco,
If you do the reflash, I would recommend to test if you can FTP to 500S with just the minimum setup with just the channel list. That is without any CCcam or plugins.
This way you will know it is doing FTP OK and then at another stage you might get a blockage. Hopefully not.
If your receiver is a clone, then you shouldn't use Gemini.

cesco · 27-06-2009

Originally Posted by HB13DISH

Good morning cesco,
If you do the reflash, I would recommend to test if you can FTP to 500S with just the minimum setup with just the channel list. That is without any CCcam or plugins.
This way you will know it is doing FTP OK and then at another stage you might get a blockage. Hopefully not.
If your receiver is a clone, then you shouldn't use Gemini.

guys good morning, you know what?!!
i cannot do a backup with flash pro as when the software try to log in it will be stopped by the box!!!
oh what a hassle!!!

if i will leave everything as it is can how can i install the vlc 1.3 in it
it is not on the gemini server
when you go to add ons there is another server which is titled your server, what is that one, can i set it to my pc's ip or i am talking nonsense!!
thks again
rgds
cesco

cesco · 27-06-2009

Originally Posted by cesco

guys good morning, you know what?!!
i cannot do a backup with flash pro as when the software try to log in it will be stopped by the box!!!
oh what a hassle!!!
if i will leave everything as it is can how can i install the vlc 1.3 in it
it is not on the gemini server
when you go to add ons there is another server which is titled your server, what is that one, can i set it to my pc's ip or i am talking nonsense!!
thks again
rgds
cesco

the flash pro is telling me this when i try to do back up of the 4.0 image: 500 oops chdir

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