DM 600 Recorded Movies get erased when switched off

felicianf · 03-12-2007

DM 600 Recorded Movies get erased when switched off
My DM 600 was working fine and I was recording movies.
I tried to remove the Hard Drive and connect it to the computer to test whether I can copy them to the hard drive-which was not possible.
Now when I re fixed the Hard drive to the DM and record movies (after formatting) the movies get erased when the power is off.
How sad.
Also I noted the movies are now recorded with a ".ts" at the end.
Can someone help me?
Do I miss something basic?

**HB13DISH** · 03-12-2007

Originally Posted by felicianf

DM 600 Recorded Movies get erased when switched off
My DM 600 was working fine and I was recording movies.
I tried to remove the Hard Drive and connect it to the computer to test whether I can copy them to the hard drive-which was not possible.
Now when I re fixed the Hard drive to the DM and record movies (after formatting) the movies get erased when the power is off.
How sad.
Also I noted the movies are now recorded with a ".ts" at the end.
Can someone help me?
Do I miss something basic?

You could have downloaded all the recorded files to your PC HDD using a suitable FTP application and ethernet cable between the PC and the Dreambox or if you have a router, then using one of the router's ports and the box.
You can then open them with a Nero DVD player (called Nero Showtime) or make a DVD out of them using Nero Vision.
(Nero latest version 8 evaluation (14-days) can be downloaded from the Nero website.
The files are recorded with *.ts extension by default and Nero supports this format.
If the problem still there, I suggest that you would flash the box with the latest Gemini image, then format the HDD and see what happens.
If you still have this problem, we will be happy to help you again.
Good luck

felicianf · 03-12-2007

Thanks for the advice.
I did downloaded the way you said.
Since it took long time I tried the way i mentioned.
Now the problem I have is all the movies I record get erased once I switch off.
I flashed with the Gemini image again.
Formatted the Disk.
Even changed to another one I had.
But no positive response.
Shall I flash with an earlier version of Gemin?

**HB13DISH** · 03-12-2007

Originally Posted by felicianf

Thanks for the advice.
I did downloaded the way you said.
Since it took long time I tried the way i mentioned.
Now the problem I have is all the movies I record get erased once I switch off.
I flashed with the Gemini image again.
Formatted the Disk.
Even changed to another one I had.
But no positive response.
Shall I flash with an earlier version of Gemin?

It would take a long time to dl to the HDD if you have a lot of recordings so it is wise to dl on a regular basis or just select one or two files and see how long it would take.
Which Gemini version did you use to flash and was it from a reliable website?
I suggest that you would flash again with Gemini 4.0 (not Gemini 4.1), disconnect all cables except the null modem (after shutdown of PC and box) and use the RS-232 connectors (w/o ethernet cable)
Let us know how you get on.

felicianf · 03-12-2007

I flashed Gemini 4.1

**HB13DISH** · 03-12-2007

Originally Posted by felicianf

I flashed Gemini 4.1

Try Gemini 4.0 and let us see what happens.
(I have 7000S and I had problems with 4.1, but unless you tell us what happens if you want to try flashing with 4.0, the mystery would still be unsolved)

felicianf · 04-12-2007

Originally Posted by HB13DISH

Try Gemini 4.0 and let us see what happens.
(I have 7000S and I had problems with 4.1, but unless you tell us what happens if you want to try flashing with 4.0, the mystery would still be unsolved)

I flashed with Gemini 4.0 but the problem is there.
When restart the DM (even without unplugging) and go to Setup-system-Hardrive- it shows as unknown format, which needs to be formatted.
If I do not format and try to record it says unaccessible HD.

To sum up the Hard drive formatting of Linus is lost everytime I restart the DM.

**HB13DISH** · 04-12-2007

Originally Posted by felicianf

I flashed with Gemini 4.0 but the problem is there.
When restart the DM (even without unplugging) and go to Setup-system-Hardrive- it shows as unknown format, which needs to be formatted.
If I do not format and try to record it says unaccessible HD.

To sum up the Hard drive formatting of Linus is lost everytime I restart the DM.

What is the HDD make, model number and size?
Did you format the HDD after the Gemini 4.0 flash?

**HB13DISH** · 04-12-2007

Another idea
Disconnect the HDD (IDE cable and Power supply) and flash with Gemini 4.0
After scanning channels check that everything is OK as a receiver of TV and radio.
Shutdown box, unplug power cord and then connect the IDE cable and power connector and see what happens.
Format the disk as usual using the box.
If you still have this problem, then it could be a hardware issue.

felicianf · 04-12-2007

HD is Samsung 80GB IDE 2.5 HD used for Laptops

Did you format the HDD after the Gemini 4.0 flash?

Yes of course

Now I try to install a another HD and see what happens.

**HB13DISH** · 04-12-2007

Originally Posted by felicianf

HD is Samsung 80GB IDE 2.5 HD used for Laptops

Yes of course

Now I try to install a another HD and see what happens.

Is this the original HDD that came with the box or did you add it yourself?
My 7000S has 3.5" and it works fine. But with a 2.5" you need a special adapter so that the HDD would have the IDE + Power with one connector instead of two connectors as with the 3.5"
Have you tried a 3.5" HDD?

felicianf · 04-12-2007

Originally Posted by HB13DISH

Is this the original HDD that came with the box or did you add it yourself?
My 7000S has 3.5" and it works fine. But with a 2.5" you need a special adapter so that the HDD would have the IDE + Power with one connector instead of two connectors as with the 3.5"
Have you tried a 3.5" HDD?

Is this the original HDD that came with the box or did you add it yourself?

I added it after buying and it worked perfectly.

Have you tried a 3.5" HDD?

3.5" cannot be fitted into the DM600.

**HB13DISH** · 04-12-2007

Thanks for all the updates. Now I have a better picture.
Your problem started after dismantling the HDD from the 600 box and then connecting it the PC, followed by reinstall in the 600.
Have you checked the possibility that the connectors or cable might have become faulty as a result?

felicianf · 04-12-2007

Thanks for your great support.
Mainbord end cable cannot be changed and I did not manipulate.
How can I know whether I have connected the HD end correctly ?There is an arrow on the Cable.
Should it come to the printed letter side of the HD or the other side?
Can you tell me a way to double check the cable which I reconnected is correct or not-any site or pic giving the proper way to connect it?
Dreambox manual doesnt give.

**HB13DISH** · 04-12-2007

Originally Posted by felicianf

Thanks for your great support.
Mainbord end cable cannot be changed and I did not manipulate.
How can I know whether I have connected the HD end correctly ?There is an arrow on the Cable.
Should it come to the printed letter side of the HD or the other side?
Can you tell me a way to double check the cable which I reconnected is correct or not-any site or pic giving the proper way to connect it?
Dreambox manual doesnt give.

I haven't used a 2.5" HDD before. But usually the red colored wire on the cable represents pin number 1.
Look at the HDD connector and see if there is a pin 1 marking.
This is where the coloured wire should go.
Does the connector on the cable goes either way or is it polarized to prevent wrong insertion?

felicianf · 04-12-2007

I dont think so. I got down a technician and he said the cable connection is ok.
I feel the Hard Disks are corrupt.
I will retry tomorrow with anew hard drive.
Thanks for your help.
I will update you.

**v9oly** · 04-12-2007

I'm no expert on formatting, just a thought, but did you format the harddrive with the pc? I have read that this can cause problems.

Regards,
Ollie

felicianf · 05-12-2007

did you format the harddrive with the pc? I have read that this can cause problems

Cant be-since all harddrives are usually formatted for PC

felicianf · 06-12-2007

Thanks so much for the help you offered.
Finally I got it working.
What did I do?
I bought another new Hard Drive and tried.
This time i noticed when formatting it goes as "Master".
earlier I remember it went as "SLAVE".
I do not know how to change it to become Master-but my new hard drive acted as Master.
@ HB13DISH
Anyway thanks again for your enormous help. I you were in Sri Lanka I would have invited you for a dinner.
Thanks again.

**HB13DISH** · 06-12-2007

Hello felicianf,
I am glad that you have got the thing working to your satisfaction now.
These 2.5" HDD are quite fragile and they need to be treated with utmost care, especially with regards to ESD.
If you download the data sheet for the model that you have now, it should tell you how to configure it as a Master or a Slave with the jumper.
Just like a 3.5" HDD.
It would be intersting now to check the other two HDDs and see if they are really damaged or not. But don't use the 600 for this.
Also, flashing with Gemini 4.1 might also work fine, now that we know it wasn't a software issue that you had.
Finally, thank you for the generous invitation. I will keep this in mind if I ever make a trip to Asia.
I remember drinking a lot of Ceylon Tea many years ago and it is indeed the finest tea in the world.

felicianf · 06-12-2007

Thanks so much for your kind and informative advice.
You are always welcome in this part of the world.
Thanks

felicianf · 06-12-2007

This explains to a certain extent;
_http://sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx?Path=ServicesSupport/JumperSettings/CurrentModelHardDiskDriveJumperSettings

***BonceChops*** · 07-12-2007

I am using Gemini 4.1 on my 600 and it works fine. I have not experianced any problems. In fact I have paused a film on it at the moment while I did a few jobs around the house.

My next toy will be a 7025 which I plan to order soon, maybe that's when the fun will start

felicianf · 08-12-2007

How do you record the Dreambox's ts files to a DVD- Has anyone used Ulead DVD Movie Factory?

**HB13DISH** · 08-12-2007

Originally Posted by felicianf

How do you record the Dreambox's ts files to a DVD- Has anyone used Ulead DVD Movie Factory?

I Use Nero Vision
If you don't have Nero, download the 15 days evaluation and then use Nero Vision.
You can do titles, chapters, templates, etc.
You can use this thread which gives you some info.
Tutorial: How to deal with Non-Finalized DVD Discs
Look for:
Open Nero Vision 4 and select:

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