For fringe recepion HUMAX VS BUSH HD

***Rd100*** · 10-05-2008

I have tested the HUMAX FOXSAT-HD against the BUSH FREESAT HD and the bush has a better tuner for fringe reception if i attenuate the signal through my spectrum analyzer to the point where the signal drops out on the humax and the screen goes black then switch over to the bush the bush still working fine with no brake ups , But i am not surprised by this as the firmware and hardware int he bush are made by echostar ,

Hedley · 10-05-2008

Thanks for the info. RD100. It's a Bush for me if I get one. I live in the Canary Islands and I am wondering if a Freesat box connected to my 3.1m dish will open up any additional channels to the ones I currently get on my Pace 2600c1. Down here I get some BBC and ITV regions, but not all, but alas cannot get ITV2, ITV3 and ITV4. Would I be correct in thinking that the Beeb are still only sending one signal down which is picked up by both the Sky box and the Freesat box rather than a dedicated signal to each. If this is the case I doubt the Freesat box will bring many benefits except the remote chance of getting HD TV. Any advice or experiences with Freesat in the Canaries would be appreciated. Plus does anyone know if there is any chance of receiving the HD channels this far South.

**Expat** · 10-05-2008

Thanks for that, I have been wondering which HD receiver would be best for us out here on the fringes. Thanks again

Praise be Echostar!

**Robbo71** · 10-05-2008

Originally Posted by Hedley

Thanks for the info. RD100. It's a Bush for me if I get one. I live in the Canary Islands and I am wondering if a Freesat box connected to my 3.1m dish will open up any additional channels to the ones I currently get on my Pace 2600c1. Down here I get some BBC and ITV regions, but not all, but alas cannot get ITV2, ITV3 and ITV4. Would I be correct in thinking that the Beeb are still only sending one signal down which is picked up by both the Sky box and the Freesat box rather than a dedicated signal to each. If this is the case I doubt the Freesat box will bring many benefits except the remote chance of getting HD TV. Any advice or experiences with Freesat in the Canaries would be appreciated. Plus does anyone know if there is any chance of receiving the HD channels this far South.

It's the same signal to Sky boxes,FTA boxes and Freesat boxes.

Can you get 10847V? this is where BBC HD is according to lyngsat. If you can get the other channels on that transponder I would have thought that it would be possible to get BBC HD.

Hedley · 10-05-2008

Unfortunately no satellite signal is received on 10847V so it looks like SD TV for me. Horizontal channels, for some reason, are received easier than vertical ones on my set up.

stevenpc · 09-06-2008

can the Bush BFSAT01HD freesat be used to view fta on other satellites like the humax foxsat ?

***cjgall*** · 25-06-2008

Originally Posted by stevenpc

can the Bush BFSAT01HD freesat be used to view fta on other satellites like the humax foxsat ?

I believe you can add channels by going to the service menu and entering '2846'. I haven't tried this yet so I don't know if it actually works. There will be a firmware upgrade in the near future that will add a manual tuning option to the settings menu.

Btw. the Bush's tuner is much more sensitive than my Pace 430N. I get 100% signal strength an 90% signal quality hear in the Netherlands, about the same as my Topfield. The Pace is usually at 40-50% quality & strength. The interactive text is much faster than on any Sky box I have used.

All in all not a bad little HD receiver for the price ( Argos 119,- including HDMI cable) if you can live without the component and composite outputs that the Humax has.

Gunner · 01-07-2008

Bush Receiver. Can you add channels ???.

***cjgall*** · 01-07-2008

Originally Posted by Gunner

Bush Receiver. Can you add channels ???.

It looks like it. I typed in ' 2846' from the settings menu, it brings up a hidden screen titled 'Manual Scan - Digital Satellite' from which you can scan frequenties etc. I haven't tried it but it looks promising. Bush will be updating the firmware soon to officially support adding extra channels.

***snap*** · 02-07-2008

The test above does not exactly replicate real world reception in fringe areas. In these areas, typically a large dish is being used which will give very strong signals on some beams, such as ( In Iberia) the south beam. A good receiver will be able to reject the interference caused by strong signals on differing polarities.
What most people are looking for on the fringe is good ITV and BBC reception from Astra 2D. Someone in the south of Spain has tested the Humax HD receiver on 2D and found it better than the Pace 2600 CI, previously regarded as having the best tuner.

FD12 · 03-07-2008

Originally Posted by cjgall

It looks like it. I typed in ' 2846' from the settings menu, it brings up a hidden screen titled 'Manual Scan - Digital Satellite' from which you can scan frequenties etc. I haven't tried it but it looks promising. Bush will be updating the firmware soon to officially support adding extra channels.

Whilst having repeated attempts at the above yesterday, I switched to my program list to find a software download in progress.

My box is a Grundig HD, but this should apply to all the Alba tuners.

Within 30 minutes I was able to add channels via the manual set-up.
Channel details from Flysat.

Sound and picture control much improved. You have to swap between channel lists - non-Freesat starting at 3000 in whatever order you want to load them.

I did pick the Grundig so that my 90 year old Mum could use it, when I really wanted a Humax, which seemed too complicated for her. Turns out to be a good choice after all.

***cjgall*** · 03-07-2008

I have installed the latest software to the Bush, there is now an option to add none freesat channels. my first impressions are not very positive.

It scans only one frequency at a time and then adds the whole bouquet. you cannot scan a whole satellite.
No DiSEqC support
Deleting channels requires pin code for each channel you want to delete
No way of rearranging or sorting channel order
Crashed when trying to scan 10729 V and had to be unplugged from the mains before it wold work again. I gave up after that but i will try again when I have more time

**Expat** · 04-07-2008

Been using a Humax HD receiver, works fine here in Copenhagen, Denmark. Infact it is better than my old Panasonic 30 and never crashes!

**cos32** · 24-07-2008

Originally Posted by Expat

Been using a Humax HD receiver, works fine here in Copenhagen, Denmark. Infact it is better than my old Panasonic 30 and never crashes!

Do you have any problems in insterting a UK post code
in the set up procedure as mine will not accept any
post code.

Cos32

apepper · 4 Weeks Ago

Another thread on this board Humax Freesat postcode? has looked at this. The problem is that the EPG and postcode database comes from Eurobird 1; unless you can receive from Eurobird 1 then the postcode can't be entered and the EPG won't work.

-Andrew

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