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Old 03-07-2009   #26
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You can see a noticable clearer picture with HD football compared with the identical source in SD.

Whether it is worth it is the question.
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I don't have an HD source for my TV (yet!) but when I went round to my friend's house last week I really couldn't see a huge improvement between the HD channels and their SD equivalents. I could just about - I think - see an improvement between the two Luxe channels but nothing startling.

And yet, when I've been in France and looked t soome of the demos in Carrefour or Auchan I can see wonderful detail when they are playing a (presumably) Bluray disc.

Could it be because the disc was outputing 1080p and most TV HD is 720P?
Thank you for your reply, thank goodness I am not the only one to notice how wonderful hd television could be, but isn't. I have emailed Panasonic on the problem and will be interesting to read their comments. We appear to be so out of touch with hd in this country, and wonder why, unless its all geared for Rupert Murdochs services.
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I cannot see the difference either. Thought it was just my eyes
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I cannot see the difference either. Thought it was just my eyes
Thanks for your comments, thought my eyes were really bad
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Originally Posted by PaulR View Post
I don't have an HD source for my TV (yet!) but when I went round to my friend's house last week I really couldn't see a huge improvement between the HD channels and their SD equivalents. I could just about - I think - see an improvement between the two Luxe channels but nothing startling.

And yet, when I've been in France and looked t soome of the demos in Carrefour or Auchan I can see wonderful detail when they are playing a (presumably) Bluray disc.

Could it be because the disc was outputing 1080p and most TV HD is 720P?
Luxe Channel is slightly different. You can see that the logo in the top right is far better defined in HD (and comes across as almost a true black, the SD version being a rather dark grey).
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It'll be interesting tomorrow, as I'll be installing a dish for the new Panasonic Twin tuner Freesat PVR, let's see how it compares.
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It'll be interesting tomorrow, as I'll be installing a dish for the new Panasonic Twin tuner Freesat PVR, let's see how it compares.
That will be interesting
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Yes, he's also got the Panasonic Freesat TV, so will be able to compare BBC HD directly.
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Yes, he's also got the Panasonic Freesat TV, so will be able to compare BBC HD directly.
Hi any luck with the comparison check yet ?
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As far as i know, the only h/d channel you can see on the panasonic freesat tv is itv 1, and that only transmits on the odd occasion, and you have to be on the itv 1 channel, and press the red button.
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As far as i know, the only h/d channel you can see on the panasonic freesat tv is itv 1, and that only transmits on the odd occasion, and you have to be on the itv 1 channel, and press the red button.
Plus BBC HD on Freesat 108.

Plus Luxe HD in non-freesat mode.

Plus a handful of Channels and Promos on other Satellites.
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As far as i know, the only h/d channel you can see on the panasonic freesat tv is itv 1, and that only transmits on the odd occasion, and you have to be on the itv 1 channel, and press the red button.
Unfortunately I think you have missred the original question. It is not that hd cannot be seen, but the fact is of not being able to see the difference in picture quality between sd and hd
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Thanks guys for putting me right, i will check it out.
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Thanks guys for putting me right, i will check it out.
Thank you for your understanding
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Unfortunately I think you have missred the original question. It is not that hd cannot be seen, but the fact is of not being able to see the difference in picture quality between sd and hd
I have already ansered your question in my earlier post. There is a clear difference between HD & SD.

This was checked as recently as last Sunday (5 July 2009) with the Tour de France cycling in HD from Ned1. But also throughout the 2008/09 EPL season the HD pictures were noticeably better than the same SD transmission.
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