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Another interesting query. Here goes, regarding 26 East Badr 3/4. Tp 11 - 11919 H shows an individual beam mbc not receivable in UK. I can pull this in no problem with an 88cm. (flysat & lyngsat show the footprint for middle east only. Is this a mis-print or is that Tp on the BSS beam??

Are most of the Middle East, BSS and FSS beams receivable in the UK and what dish sizes are recommended?


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it debends about where u live in uk
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I rather suspect that is a convenient work of fiction rather like the Astra 2D coverage area so that the MBC channels can continue to transmit fta....

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Understand but kingofsat are showing it as on the BSS beam
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dish 1m size is very good for mbc
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Ok cheers, in which case I am very impressed with the signals being pulled in with a TD88 & Invacom LNB for testing. (78% signal / 99% Quality) on 11919 Tp11.
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So...what's the conclusion. Is Tp11 mbc 11919H on a tighter footprint away from the Uk?

Clean signals picked up in all weather conditions with a 88cm dish & invacom. Is it that the better LNB is pulling it in?
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So...what's the conclusion. Is Tp11 mbc 11919H on a tighter footprint away from the Uk?

Footprints aren't conclusive when you are outside the intended footprint! They're only ever a general guide. I would say that there is a large inaccuracy with that beam though. Some transponders are much stronger than others when you are well outside a footprint.
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This beam on Badr 4 11919H 27500 is much weaker than the other transponder's on this satellite & it is no myth that the beams on this are restricted same as with Astra 2D in Southern Spain reception is next to impossible without a very large dish,
To get good reception on satellites that do not have a footprint in your area a good match with Lnb & Dish is essential sometimes it can work ok with a 88cm dish with a well matched Lnb & in the same location a 104cm dish with the wrong Lnb will get nothing from MBC on Badr-4,
The Focus of the Lnb onto the dish makes all the difference.

The better Lnb will pull in the signals if the Lnb is matched to the dish {re focus of the entire dish is spot on & the feed horn on the Lnb is round on a dish that is higher than it is wide so that from the Lnb arm the Lnb see the dish as a circle as opposed to an elipical horn Lnb used for a dish that is wider than it is high like a Sky mini dish or an eliptical raven dish.

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The new Badr 6 shows 4x 187MHz transponders in the frequency plan - what would these be used for?
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They may be the one's that we cannot receive in Europe
I have suggested to flysat that 11804H 27500,11862V 27500,11900V 27500 are all on a tighter footprint either BSS or steerable beam, flysat agree & have adjusted their footprint maps as for MBC this is more difficult during the day but ok in the evening.
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Hello !
i have tested now the bader 6 satelite,with the gregory 1,25m on 3 transponder i have no signal all others working,but some are very weak, 11806 V, and 11900 needs in eastern germany 3,70m Fullsize dish,i got reports on german satelite board!

on 11806 V i have Signal here,with the gregory dish on 11900 V still no signal,this are the transponders i can receive,tested with cloudy sky this morning now its sunny,in night time normaly it works much better,i will see..!


signals weakest 34% .45% for 11806 V,and the rest 6D in Dvb 2000 like on Astra!
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