Astra 19.2E Dish Size in Israel

**HB13DISH** · 07-04-2008

I would like to build a database with information about the dish size and make and the LNB type used to receive channels from Astra 19.2E in Israel.
Members who can receive ANY channels from Astra 19.2E are requested to post here their setup and which channels they can receive without pixelization.
Thank you for your input.

**Uk2cyp** · 19-04-2008

I'm not in Israel but in Cyprus not too far away i recieve transponders on Astra 1G and 1H on 80cm dish and 0.3lnb no pixelization.

Also wondering why you use 1.6m dish for Hotbird

Regards

**HB13DISH** · 19-04-2008

Originally Posted by Uk2cyp

I'm not in Israel but in Cyprus not too far away i recieve transponders on Astra 1G and 1H on 80cm dish and 0.3lnb no pixelization.

Also wondering why you use 1.6m dish for Hotbird

Regards

Thanks Uk2cyp.

This is very interesting. Can you please attach a list of all the channels that you are able to receive with your 80cm dish.

At the time I wanted to put the largest dish possible so that the reception will be good under all weather conditions.

**Uk2cyp** · 19-04-2008

Hi HB13Dish

The channels i receive are on these 2 sats below

http://www.lyngsat.com/astra1g.html
http://www.lyngsat.com/astra1h.html

Originally i thought it was only certain transponders on these sats but i receive all these after realigning the arc on my dish a few weeks ago

note i cannot receive 1KR or 1L at 19E

I also receive a weak signal 60% on my TM 1500 from 28E Eurobird 1 steerable 1
I am thinking of getting a 1.2m gibertini dish to pull in this sat as i need at least 66% signal for a picture

**HB13DISH** · 19-04-2008

Thanks.

Please edit your post and deactivate the live URL link.

**Analoguesat** · 19-04-2008

Those live links are ok HB

***deepbluesky*** · 19-04-2008

A friend in Lemesos/Limassol recommends 1.8m for proper 19.2E reception. Of course without Astra 1F but for the rest. I am not quite sure for a serious recommendation of minimum dish size in Israel but i wouldn't start below 2.40m. Maybe 3m gets all except 1F. The other question is, if Eilat has much worse conditions than the mediterranean coastal region.

I am aware of these israeli sites that must be able to give precise info:
_http://www.satil.com/english.htm (check the menu, there is also a sat board hidden)
_http://www.tal-hetz.co.il/talsat/english/digital.asp

**HB13DISH** · 20-04-2008

Thank you deepbluesky.

I am hoping to receive feedback from members with actual setup details and which beams can be received.

The most common dish size here is 1.0m and 1.2m.
1.6m, 1.8m can be installed without attracting too much attention.
But 2.4m and 3.0m are very rare and would most certainly need permissions.

***deepbluesky*** · 20-04-2008

You're welcome.

Eliem1 · 20-07-2008

I'm in Jerusalem and I would like to receive the new Arte HD programs (19.2 East). What dish size do I need and where can I get it?

**HB13DISH** · 20-07-2008

Originally Posted by Eliem1

I'm in Jerusalem and I would like to receive the new Arte HD programs (19.2 East). What dish size do I need and where can I get it?

I doubt if your 1.2m dish will get you Astra 19.2E. There are reports that with 1.8m some channels can be received.
If you are going to add or replace your dish, then I would consider 2.4m at least and hope that you will catch as many channels as possible (if this is at all possible in your house/apartment)
If the largest size that you can install is 1.8m, then try to buy a good quality dish from well known brands instead of what they stock locally.
Check the footprints over Israel first.
Good luck. I would be very much interested to know how you will proceed with this project.

***deepbluesky*** · 20-07-2008

Unfortunately arte HD has chosen an Astra 1F transponder. This means for you that it might only be receivable on monster dishes far bigger than 3m. And even this ain't for sure. You're too far away from the footprint edge. The problems start in the Aegean. Athens is on the very limit with 1m but in Rodos a very well aligned 2.30m does not get it. Astra 1F

ianwedge · 30-10-2008

Originally Posted by Uk2cyp

I'm not in Israel but in Cyprus not too far away i recieve transponders on Astra 1G and 1H on 80cm dish and 0.3lnb no pixelization.

Also wondering why you use 1.6m dish for Hotbird

Regards

Hi UK2Cyp,
Can you advise me of the best LNB to use in Cyprus on a 4.2m dish in Paralimni.
Thanks

Eliem1 · 22-12-2008

Hi Shavit,
I live in Jerusalem and I would like to receive the new Arte HD programs on Astra (19.2 East).
I understand that you have a 1.8 m dish. Is that sufficient to capture this channel?

***deepbluesky*** · 23-12-2008

Welcome on board Eliem1.

Since in Rodos the reception is not possible on 2.30m i doubt very much if you would be able to get it in Jerusalem on a smaller dish. Astra 1F is a pain for the Eastern Mediterranean. Maybe for you the situation will get better when Astra 1N in 2011 will take over the 1F transponders.

I wonder how the situation looks like today for 1G/H/KR/L. For me it's almost impossible to find any information since i cannot read hebrew. For you it should be easy to find some useful topics in these boards mentioned:
_http://www.satil.com/links_forums_israel.htm
_http://www.orbita-sat.com/phpBB2/index.php (in Russian)
_http://www.orbita-sat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1968 (looks like 2.40m are recommended for most stuff, maybe you should ask him as well)

***BombedOne*** · 23-12-2008

I have seen on a certain russian forum, some member from israel posting 7 meter and 15 meter sized dish photos, claiming that these are used for Astra 1 and Astra 2 series reception in israel (for further redistribution via cable tv) I think I have saved them somewhere. I'll try to find them - maybe people reckon them by surrounding buildings or so on.

***deepbluesky*** · 23-12-2008

Would be nice to see those photos but cable distribution always requires bigger dishes than for DTH. Such huge dishes surely were common in the days before Astra 1G.

Maybe somebody from Israel can tell us what a 1.80m/2.40m/3m cannot get from 19.2E/28.2E/28.5E ?

***deepbluesky*** · 13-01-2009

On page 2 at _http://forum.dxtv.de/wbb/thread.php?threadid=15124 you can see the frequencies received in Northern Israel with 1.80m.

**HB13DISH** · 13-01-2009

Originally Posted by deepbluesky

On page 2 at _http://forum.dxtv.de/wbb/thread.php?threadid=15124 you can see the frequencies received in Northern Israel with 1.80m.

Thank you deepbluesky. This is very helpful.

I wish I can confirm this, but I can't have another dish larger than the 1.6m that I have now without getting the neighbours mad at me.
Well, perhaps if I win the lottery and buy my own house, I can then put a 2.4m dish and start enjoying Astra.
On second thought, it might be cheaper to move to Europe.

***deepbluesky*** · 13-01-2009

Glad you like it. Well as you can see not many frequencies can be received and mostly the 1KR/L are missing. If 1M/N will behave similar, i fear that one in your region should upgrade to at least 3m for a proper reception. Of course 1F remains pain, but its time is soon over.

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