Out of zone reception of Insat 3A - First results.

BombedOne

There are two satellites at 93.5E position, Insat 3A and Insat 4B. According to coverage maps, 3A covers only India in C band, while 4B has much wider beam.

_http://www.lyngsat-maps.com/maps/in3a_indiac.html
_http://www.lyngsat-maps.com/maps/in4b_ecc.html

I've aligned my 2.4m prime focus mesh dish to that satellites couple of days ago, but was not able to perform detailed testing, since there was no cable going to my receiver from it. Today I've installed cable, and surprisingly, I was able to receive most of Insat 3A C band beam! Signal strength on some transponders was 90%, which is very good for SkyStar 2.3i, since lowest treshold for this card is 28% - below it picture becomes unstable. You can check the list of channels I was able receive from this satellite at attached picture. I was able to get even more frequencies, just there were feed frequencies, and no channels currently on them.

Regarding Insat 4B - all transponders are receivable in my zone using this set-up.

at weekend, I'll try to install Ku band LNB to this dish, and check for coverage of Ku band frequencies also.

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Channel Hopper

You have done exceptionally well, which LNB is being used ?

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BombedOne

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Analoguesat

Fabulous stuff - I love these reports of well out of footprint reception

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BombedOne

Too bad, this rarely happens for Astra fleet in my region trough, there are reports of receiving Astra 1KR using stock 1.2m offset dish, just 500km west from me.

deepbluesky

Looks like Astra 1KR/L have a very sharp beam edge. In Cyprus you can also receive them very well on 1.20m but <400km away in Israel a 1.80m does not get them. At least that's what i've seen on one report lately without knowing if the 1.80m is of high quality and well installed.

I don't wanna get too OT but since you're trying C-Band, could you please also check http://www.lyngsat.com/china6b.html ?

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Analoguesat

How about the new Protostar 1 at 98.5E - Not much active on it at the moment but the c-band payload covers the eastern Mediterranean to Australia!

The Indian spotbeam seems to be fairly highpower

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pipino

just to add to your great work check this up from Slovakia

just love Roman david work!!!

_http://web2.dxsatcs.66.sk/php66/index.php?str=5

regards

BombedOne

After I'll install the motor, I'll check as much as possible.


115.5E is clearly receivable here - there's "house of chinese products" shop here, my friend installed C band dish for them, aimed to that satellite.

deepbluesky

Alright but with which dish size and can be all frequencies be gotten ?

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BombedOne

Dish looks to be 2.4m, regarding frequencies, I have no idea, since now this shop is closed down, so nobody to ask (dish still remains on rooftop)

deepbluesky

I see and how about yours ? Or is this satellite blocked due to very low elevation ?

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BombedOne

As I have no motor now, my dish is fixed to 93.5E. So I don't think I'll be able to receive any other satellite, unless I install motor or weather gets fine. I just fitted combo C/Ku LNB to it, but there's no reception in Ku band from this satellite (but I haven't fine tuned LNB rotation and insertion depth yet).

deepbluesky

You're right, i forgot that you don't have installed a motor and winter there is much colder than here.

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BombedOne

I'd like to clarify one thing - How should I install C120 Ku band feedhorn on such a big dish? scalar ring for C band should remain in place no doubts - it's connecting 4 support feets together. C120 feedhorn perfectly fits into it's hole and can be secured using included nut of scalar ring. But how deep it should be located? in linge with C band scalar rings, or more deeper?

Analoguesat

Astra 1M looks much more favourable for you

_http://www.ses-astra.com/resources/pdf/en-shared/orbital-slots/0_19_2E_brochure.pdf

(page 4) - theres a distinct kink in the footprint eastwards towards Georgia

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BombedOne

Yes, but it is not active yet....

Analoguesat

Give it a few weeks - shes finished In Orbit Testing & is on the way to 19E

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BombedOne

For me ot will be optimal if TPS will move to it

Analoguesat

TPS no longer exists - its closed completely (merged with CanalSat France) so its not going to be that

As far as we know its Astra 1H that 1M will be replacing:

_http://www.lyngsat.com/astra1h.html

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BombedOne

Yes, it's going to be that!

The channels of my interest are broadcasted from 1H currently, so receiving this bird is very interesting for me

BombedOne

Today rotated it to various satellites, currently aimed at 68.5E. Most C band transponders are ok, but lyngsat data is incorrect for a lot of them - transponder is on, but no channels on it.

BombedOne

Today I tried to receive 38E - No luck. Signal from 40E is very strong and interfering heavy. I successfully received 30.5E, 40E, 49E, 83E, 90E.

Dish already becoming apart - wind is very strong, mesh is very fragile, already thorn in a lot of places, I quickfixed it using nylon ties and hotmelt glue.

So I think installing actuator for it won't be a good idea. Now I'm thinking to move it to more wind-protected area, and set up multifeed on it 76.5E+90E

Channel Hopper

If the reflector skeleton is intact and undamaged, you could reinforce it and install solid aluminium plates cut to the same dimensions as the mesh.
Many metal foundries near here are crying out for work, and redundant stock going for just above cost (plus a bit of labour) is often wlecome.

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BombedOne

Yes, skeleton is undamaged, and I can cut out sheets of aluminum by myself, but this will cost me as two such new dishes (For $250 I can buy brand new solid 2 meter dish) Steel sheets are much cheaper, but skeleton is also made from aluminum, so it would not withstand such heavy load.

Currently, I have following ideas in my head:

1. Go find more solid and durable mesh (as I reckon, I've seen it somewhere on the market). (cheapest, and maybe most effective so far)

2. Buy thin sheet steel, install on existing skeleton, reinforce the skeleton. (costy)

3. Use existing skeleton as primer, weld new one from steel, install sheets. (costy & long way, since I can work only weekends on it, will require me month or so)

The main idea why I went with mesh dish, was an attempt to minimize wind load, since in my area, northwest winds are typically strong from October till May, so I thought, that mesh will be more easy to motorize, in such occasion (and yes, today I watched, it behaves quite stable in wind)

So, I think to do the following:

1. Go to market, find a mesh, install it.
2. Go check for 38E again, if it's receivable, then I'll think about actuator setup.
3. If not able to receive 38E, than install this dish at place, where I currently have 1.5m primefocus solid dish aimed at 90E (more wind protected area), and configure multifeed on it. Use remaining polar mount for existing 1.5m dish installation

Big size really rocks I found interesting thing - I can receive most circular polarization satellites, even without depolarisation plate. Just signal is a bit lower.