Badr 4, Signal strength increase?

***compufunk*** · 14-05-2009

Hello all,
I was wondering if anyone has noticed if there's been an increase in signal strength on some TPs from Badr4?

I've tried scanning 26E to see if I could pick up any of the MBC channels quite on a few times before and, I've never had any luck. I 'd given up, thinking it wasn't possible with my setup at this location (55N / 8W). I couldn't lock on to 11919H at all.

After a recent sweep scan of all sats, I've just noticed I'm now picking up most if not all MBC channels.

. Nice to see they are sending a few days worth of EPG data too

The TPs were scanned in at around 3-4pm a few days ago, and the quility is still perfectly watchable now (at 2am).

Question 2: Apart from a boost in the signal/footprint from the satellite being ramped up, what other environmental factors might be effecting the signal strength? The weather is no better than when I did some of the earlier scans.

I've attached a document showing what I am receiving from 26E for anyone interested. (Just remove the .txt extension to get it to open in Excel)

C

**Analoguesat** · 14-05-2009

Theres some environmental factor in play at the moment as many folk in the UK are reporting better than expected signal strengths from 7W as well.

**Robbo** · 14-05-2009

I believe that the 7W signal incease is due not to an environmental factor, but the Nilesat operators adjusting the orientation of the satellite a little to catch the sun the a bit more on the solar panels. May be complete cobblers though.

Not noticed an increase on the Badr's myself.

**satelliteman** · 14-05-2009

Seen a slight signal increase for while now shown as improved MER & BER in particular on 11.919h

***Huevos*** · 14-05-2009

Originally Posted by Robbo

adjusting the orientation of the satellite a little to catch the sun the a bit more on the solar panels.

That happens all day long on a satellite with flat panel solar arrays. If it didn't the back of the solar array would face the sun for 12 hours every day.

***compufunk*** · 18-05-2009

that didn't last long, the BER has shot up and the mbc channels are not watchable anymore.

Its gotten me thinking that I might want to upgrade to a larger dish in the future. I wonder will Fracarro be making a 1m Penta any time soon

betas · 18-05-2009

still ok here in the last of the summer wine county,2fast 2 furious on MBC2

***dvmedia*** · 19-05-2009

Originally Posted by compufunk

that didn't last long, the BER has shot up and the mbc channels are not watchable anymore.

Its gotten me thinking that I might want to upgrade to a larger dish in the future. I wonder will Fracarro be making a 1m Penta any time soon

Ooh if they are, I would be first to buy

GlennMillarTV · 02-06-2009

Did an install for 26e yeaterday. 1.1m Triax dish, MTI 0.2 LNB and Manhattan Plaza Receiver.

Received all the MBC channels. Hadn't seen that channel since the analogue days on Hotbird...

**satelliteman** · 02-06-2009

That's a nice result Glenn

***BombedOne*** · 02-06-2009

A bit offset question but...

Here 1.5m primefocus or offset dish is roughly $65. 1.8m is $200 and 2.4m is $350. While spending so high cash on hi-end tv and receivers, why you (users), always stuck with tiny 0.6 or 0.9m dish, counting 1m dish as great achievement?

Why not get at least 1.8m dish and completely forget these reception problems?

I'm really curious...

GlennMillarTV · 02-06-2009

Cause we have very few flat roofs to put them on...

**Topper** · 02-06-2009

Originally Posted by BombedOne

Why not get at least 1.8m dish and completely forget these reception problems?

I'm really curious...

Because it happens to be illegal to do so in the UK, so why do all that work only to have someone come and force you to take it down, I'm sure we have explained this to you before

***wod*** · 02-06-2009

Originally Posted by BombedOne

A bit offset question but...

Here 1.5m primefocus or offset dish is roughly $65. 1.8m is $200 and 2.4m is $350. While spending so high cash on hi-end tv and receivers, why you (users), always stuck with tiny 0.6 or 0.9m dish, counting 1m dish as great achievement?

Why not get at least 1.8m dish and completely forget these reception problems?

I'm really curious...

surprised you've not read it on the forum but uk is limited to 1metre anything above requires permisson from the council.

only if you have no neighbours or in the middle of know where, unlikely in england that you could have a massive dish

***Huevos*** · 03-06-2009

Originally Posted by wod

only if you have no neighbours or in the middle of know where, unlikely in england that you could have a massive dish

Too many regulations and nosey parkers in that country.

***dvmedia*** · 04-06-2009

Out of interest, has anyone here ever formally applied for planning permission for a 1.8 meter dish or somesuch?

If you live in a big dettatched house (as opposed to my mid-terrace) I could almost see a lax council just ticking the 'approved' box.. (providing neighbors ignored the warning noticed sent out to them)

***BombedOne*** · 04-06-2009

Well, regarding limitation, I've briefly read it before, but haven't noticed any limit against dish in own yard. And as I've read somewhere, almost any english household has own backyard.

Ok, say size is limited to 1m, then why not use more efficient antenna of such size, like cassergrain or gregory?

***Huevos*** · 04-06-2009

Originally Posted by BombedOne

say size is limited to 1m, then why not use more efficient antenna of such size, like cassergrain or gregory?

People do... but... for example a Fibo 90cm is 105cm tall so even that is not allowed without planning. Another problem with the UK is gardens are usually like a postage stamp so if the dish is at ground level (where nosey neighbours can't see it) then it can't see over the numerous obstacles (houses, etc) and so can only cover a small part of the arc.

***BombedOne*** · 04-06-2009

Prodelin or Patriot (don't remember exactly, but have photo somewhere), have 2 reflector dish, 85x90cm

***compufunk*** · 11-06-2009

The MBC beam is coming in strong here again this past few days.

There's a bit of breakup sometimes, but not enough to disrupt viewing.

SNR: 75% AGC: 91% BER: 3397

thedriver 08 · 13-06-2009

Im here in Dublin and have very little problems with badr 4 and the mbc beam there usually around 60-70 quality this is using a triax 1.1m with .2db titanium.

I cant pick up even a small signal on badr 6 though,Does anyone have an idea of how big a dish id need to pick it up .

Thanks.

**Analoguesat** · 13-06-2009

Much much bigger - the Badr 6 transmission footprint is slewed well south of the British Isles.

pappupappu31 · 20-06-2009

i live in manchester ,,and i hav a very big garden and i hav the dish quite big ,,but never had any complaints ,,i hav a 1.5 meter dish but am lookin 4 a big dish ,,but no 1 seems 2 do good dishes

**satelliteman** · 20-06-2009

Originally Posted by pappupappu31

i live in manchester ,,and i hav a very big garden and i hav the dish quite big ,,but never had any complaints ,,i hav a 1.5 meter dish but am lookin 4 a big dish ,,but no 1 seems 2 do good dishes

Would of thought you'd have reasonably good results from the Gibertini 150cm you have but there are certainly larger and better dishes available.

***Huevos*** · 20-06-2009

Originally Posted by pappupappu31

i [...] am lookin 4 a big dish

What do you mean by a big dish? Is it for motorising? What are you trying to receive that you can't on the Gibertini?

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