Badr 4,6. 26 E

pishogay · 22-07-2009

Hi, I tried to receive the signal from Badr 4,6 at 26 E. I set up the receiver at the Frequency 11909, which is stated in the forum to be the strongest reference frequency for this satellite. I am unable to get Badr 4,6 but i am getting the signal from 28E and 23.5E at the same frequency instead. I have tried a lot but no luck. Is Badr 4,6 really difficult to be received in England, Harrogate area? Please any kind of help would be much appreciated.

Thank You

**Analoguesat** · 22-07-2009

What size dish are you using?? 26E is poor in the UK - it gets swamped by 28/23.5E

***Tivù*** · 22-07-2009

Originally Posted by pishogay

Hi, I tried to receive the signal from Badr 4,6 at 26 E. I set up the receiver at the Frequency 11909, which is stated in the forum to be the strongest reference frequency for this satellite. I am unable to get Badr 4,6 but i am getting the signal from 28E and 23.5E at the same frequency instead. I have tried a lot but no luck. Is Badr 4,6 really difficult to be received in England, Harrogate area? Please any kind of help would be much appreciated.

Thank You

I live not far from you.

Can't get it on my 80cm as the Beamwidth is too great to prevent either 28E or bits of 23.5E breaking through and swamping the BADR signals.

No problems at all on my 110cm, although you have to point it at about 25.5 E to be sure of rejecting 28E.

pishogay · 22-07-2009

i am using a 90 cm dish. is there any other stronger frequency on Badr4,6 which is not available on 28E and 23.5. that might help. Thank you

**satelliteman** · 22-07-2009

No Audio/Video ON 26.0E BADR

pishogay · 22-07-2009

Thanks for sending me the relevent thread. i have read it and will try to do it that way but i am doing all this manually. i dont have a motorised dish. Thank you

***Turok*** · 22-07-2009

yesterday i make a blindsearch with my gregory 1,25 m,and 199 channels are stored,25,8 and 26 together,so also here 1,50 m,on some transponders is hard on the limit better 2 meter and up!
when eurobird 2 will be replaced?

at94 · 09-08-2009

Hi Pishogay & All
I live approx 60 miles from you (Lincolnshire)
As Analoguesat mentioned 26 degrees gets swamped BUT
I can pick up some channels on BADR 4 when beamed to 25.5
I am unable to get BADR 6
I am using 90cm dish
Regards
Mark

**peppey** · 10-08-2009

1 metre ordinary dish not bringing any bad-r 4 signal (S.E).
am wondering if attach a few 60 cm dish fronts around
the edge of 1 metre would do it.

**Analoguesat** · 10-08-2009

Originally Posted by peppey

1 metre ordinary dish not bringing any bad-r 4 signal (S.E).
am wondering if attach a few 60 cm dish fronts around
the edge of 1 metre would do it.

Err no

You would never be able to get the millimetric precision required.

**Robbo** · 10-08-2009

Also, the LNB wouldn't see them anyway, as it just 'looks' at the dish.

Which channels are you after? as you should be able to get some from 26E if the dish is aligned properly and it is of reasonable quality.

**peppey** · 11-08-2009

the 5 mbc channels sound good,maybe i will try again.

**Robbo** · 11-08-2009

In dry weather you should get them relatively easily plus more besides like Dubai one.

Even with a bit of rain they're possible too.

**peppey** · 19-08-2009

just looking at mbc action,programme similiar in species to x files,but best can do is 30-35% signal,thinking of changing from maximum to titanium or inverto lnb
for more signal.

**satelliteman** · 19-08-2009

Should be ok with a 100cm in the SE. Alignment is critical for 26e especially for the Mbc beam.
Swapping out the LNb may well give you some improvement.

***Tivù*** · 19-08-2009

More signal?

LNB characteristics are very hard to interpret into likely gains eg through reduced noise, as their quoted characteristics are not normally flat right across Ku Band.

For that reason, it is perfectly possible that a 0.6dB Noise Figure LNB can outperform a 0.2dB one for some Transponders.

Experimentation is the only productive way to find out what is best, and I always ensure I have a couple or three "spares" from different manufacturers that I can swop around as reception and compatibility requirements dictate.

The only sure way to get more signal is, as ever, a bigger Dish!

mhla200 · 19-08-2009

Had the same problem as well, signal is good on 26e but have NO AUDIO/VIDEO message on screen. If i try to scan the channels again i loose MBC channels.

***Tivù*** · 19-08-2009

Originally Posted by mhla200

Had the same problem as well, signal is good on 26e but have NO AUDIO/VIDEO message on screen. If i try to scan the channels again i loose MBC channels.

I suspect your problem is that the signal you are getting is from 28E, not from 26E.

That explains why you get a good reading but nothing to watch .............

Common problem.

You need a dish of around 1m or more in order to have sufficiently narrow beamwidth to be able to prevent this happening.

Even then, it is often necessary to slightly misalign the Dish to around 25.5 deg, just to be sure.

Edit: Just noticed you have a 1.1m, so the size is fine, but I still reckon you are picking up 28E instead (or, at a stretch, some of the Dutch TPs from 23.5E).

**Robbo** · 19-08-2009

An easy way to get 26E is to first align to 28E, then tune to 12182H on 26E, then edge the dish westward. Go to far though, and you end up on 23.5E, as that transponder is used there, but not on 28E.

**Analoguesat** · 19-08-2009

Tune to

12182 H
16200
3/4

SR 16200 is not used on 28E or 23E

**peppey** · 20-08-2009

audio and vision problem needs white and yellow phono connector,tv to rec.

shamone · 12-10-2009

Sorry to dig this post up, but I have an issue with this and did not want to start a new post.

I have been able to pull in this sat but the picture has lots of break up despite having good signal and strength levels.

It is the same on Dubai 1 and sports, would adjusting the skew on the LNB help this?

futumsch · 12-10-2009

If your dish is motorized then you do not need to adjust the LNB skew - i.e your whole dish will be skewed. If your dish is fixed (i.e. upright) then skew the lnb 18 degrees clockwise as you look at the dish.
The biggest improvement i made to get signals off this bird was to swap from an inverto lnb to a dark gold. Not that I have much faith in the 0.1dB noise figure, but the extra body length on the dark gold allowed me to push the lnb into the dish focus and get a far better signal. I even get good signal without picture break up on the mbc channels in moderate rain.

***Tivù*** · 12-10-2009

Originally Posted by shamone

Sorry to dig this post up, but I have an issue with this and did not want to start a new post.

I have been able to pull in this sat but the picture has lots of break up despite having good signal and strength levels.

It is the same on Dubai 1 and sports, would adjusting the skew on the LNB help this?

Are you using USALS?

If so, change the Satellite Position associated with BADR from 26E to 25.5E.

As regards Skew, I agree with the previous Poster. Unless it is wrong across the arc by virtue of not being dead upright at zero angular displacement of the motor, then it shouldn't need to be altered.

shamone · 12-10-2009

Thanks for the replys guys.

The whole setup is 100% vertical as I have just re set it all. I will try and adjust the USALS position and post back the results.

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