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16-09-2009
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Hi everyone. As many of you have already heard, TVP (Polish public broadcaster) have launched new FTA package on this freq: ASTRA 1KR (19,2E) (10,862 GHz, pol. H, SR: 22000, FEC: 5/6, DVB-S2/8PSK) The big question, is this frequency on some kind of Spot Beam, which covers only Poland? Unfortunately, I'm not at home right now, so I can't check if there is some reception in Latvia... But will keep you posted... | ||
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Blog Entries: 1 My System: Sky UK. FTA analogue & digital satellite from 6 fixed dishes (5E/7E/9E/10E/13E/16E/ 19E/23E/28E) Pace MSS100, Echostar IP3000VA, Technomate TM-1000D, Dreambox 7020S  The last noble sat warrior to fly the olden flag of Analogue | According to SES it is indeed on a spotbeam. Ive never seen any mention of 1KR having a spotbeam, so Im doing some investigations..... | ||
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Im curious to know if receiption at your location is possible and if it is how big the dish needs to be. | |||
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SES never mentioned that this and other satellites have spotbeams onboard. _http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Satelliten-TV-Ausstrahlung-Spotbeam-statt-Verschluesselung--/meldung/145401&ei=HyWxSp-6LZKc_AaXhcHZDA&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=resu lt&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.heise.de/newsticker/Satelliten-TV-Ausstrahlung-Spotbeam-statt-Verschluesselung--/meldung/145401%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG | |||
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My System: 0.8W; 4.8E; 13E (90cm dish), 19.2E; 28.2E; 36E (110cm dish), DM 600 + HDD (120 GB) | First reports are coming in from Latvia And... it looks very promising. One guy with 90cm dish is receiving good signal on this frequency. And other guy is receiving this transponder on his 1.8m (but, 19.2e is on multifeed, not on the center). Both are saying, that signal levels are strong. That's the all information I have right now. | ||
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16-09-2009
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My System: 0.8W; 4.8E; 13E (90cm dish), 19.2E; 28.2E; 36E (110cm dish), DM 600 + HDD (120 GB) | I have reception reports from Riga (well, it's kinda West - the capital of Latvia), and other from Kuldiga (West). _http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Krasta+iela&daddr=Kuldig a+to:Viesite&hl=en&geocode=FfLhZAMd3udvAQ%3B%3B&mr a=ls&sll=56.776808,24.191895&sspn=2.986086,9.87670 9&ie=UTF8&ll=56.680374,24.642334&spn=2.993752,9.87 6709&z=7 Point A - Riga, Point B - Kuldiga, Point C - Viesite (where I live, but i'm not in home till next weekend) OK, I have another report from my friend, who lives near my town - 90cm dish with Astra 19.2E on multifeed - signal is very strong. He is watching TVP HD right now. So basically, we haven't got problems with this transponder. I'm very interested what's the situation on Estonia... | ||
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Blog Entries: 1 My System: Sky UK. FTA analogue & digital satellite from 6 fixed dishes (5E/7E/9E/10E/13E/16E/ 19E/23E/28E) Pace MSS100, Echostar IP3000VA, Technomate TM-1000D, Dreambox 7020S The last noble sat warrior to fly the olden flag of Analogue | Just been looking at the artist pictures of the dish configuration of the Astra craft on the space.skyrocket.de site. From educated guesswork Id say Astras 1KR, 1L, 1M & 1N are all candidates for spotbeams. Astra 2A and 2C arent, 2B definitely does but its in use beaming into Nigeria.... Astra 4A does but again its in use into Africa.... | ||
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Blog Entries: 1 My System: Sky UK. FTA analogue & digital satellite from 6 fixed dishes (5E/7E/9E/10E/13E/16E/ 19E/23E/28E) Pace MSS100, Echostar IP3000VA, Technomate TM-1000D, Dreambox 7020S The last noble sat warrior to fly the olden flag of Analogue | Its an obvious way forward which Ive been predicting for years. Orbital slots are getting increasingly rare in the skies above Europe. If you write all the numbers from 30W round to 40E then cross out any number where there is one or more satellite slotted theres not many "free numbers" left - and they will decrease further in the next couple of years when Arabsat slot a bird at 20E! Regional spotbeams are an easy way of increasing the pool of frequencies available. | ||
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_http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Satelliten-TV-Ausstrahlung-Spotbeam-statt-Verschluesselung--/meldung/145401 at least confirms that spotbeams could also be produced with other Astra satellites, not just with 1KR. | |||
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Blog Entries: 1 My System: Sky UK. FTA analogue & digital satellite from 6 fixed dishes (5E/7E/9E/10E/13E/16E/ 19E/23E/28E) Pace MSS100, Echostar IP3000VA, Technomate TM-1000D, Dreambox 7020S The last noble sat warrior to fly the olden flag of Analogue | Thast doesnt surprise me - the dish arrangements on 1L & 1M are similar to 1KR...... And eastern Europe is a rapidly expanding market.... | ||
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17-09-2009
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My System: Sky UK, Canal Digital Finland, TM6900 - 28°E/19°E/13°E/1°W | This is odd, why keep these spot beams so secret until now? Aren't there other potential channels that want to limit their reception to a certain region? | ||
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18-09-2009
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My System: 1,25 Fibostop Jäger Smr 1224 & Smo 36 Dual Axsis Motor Dynasat F1 Monterey 140 Drembox 800 sky Pace HD Box Tagra 2,20 M Fullsize Dish Echostar 2,40m Mesh for cband! | our cable operator test now the transponder with a 3,5 m dish,signal is here,you can watch without interruption,but the strenth is hard on the limit! | ||
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My System: 1,25 Fibostop Jäger Smr 1224 & Smo 36 Dual Axsis Motor Dynasat F1 Monterey 140 Drembox 800 sky Pace HD Box Tagra 2,20 M Fullsize Dish Echostar 2,40m Mesh for cband! | Hi There! currencly i dont know cannot move the dish after the alighting,2 weeks ago,hits my egis rotor,the complete mainboard of the motor itself have to be replaced..now i have to wait,for a new one! | ||
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My System: Covering 30W-105.5E range, two motors, C and Ku band. Various receivers/cards/cams/etc. | While having same footpring in drawing, 1KR and 1L are not the same at all. Here using 2-2.5 meter dish, it's possible to get 1L, but still, no trace of 1KR. | ||
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My System: Kabel BW | Oh i see Hans. Please let us know when your EGIS is working again. BombedOne, the more SES Astra does behave snobistic towards their final consumers, the less we should believe in any of their statements and especially in footprint maps which most likely are designed from marketing specialists just to please their customers. The game just became really dirty. Take a look at 101W/110W/129W what might become true here as well the next couple of years. | ||
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20-09-2009
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My System: 1,25 Fibostop Jäger Smr 1224 & Smo 36 Dual Axsis Motor Dynasat F1 Monterey 140 Drembox 800 sky Pace HD Box Tagra 2,20 M Fullsize Dish Echostar 2,40m Mesh for cband! | Hello! yesterday i try with my 2.20 tagra dish also now signal,this vonfirms,now that it only works at the moment with 3 meter++ here! very bad news i got today,about this transponder! soon,maybe tomorow,astra make a fec change from 5/6 to 8/9,this means,that the signal will be much weaker again after that... looks like we need a 10 meter dish to catch them  maybe astra give us,one for free,from one of his uplink antennas,that we can receice,all the spotbeams  | ||
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My System: 45E-31.5W, Triax 88cm, SkyStar S2, TT S2-3200 | Hello! With my Triax 88cm in Kiev, Ukraine I have good reception of this TVP mux in Spot beam with new FEC 8/9. Just sometimes very little digitalization happens. Best regards! | ||
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My System: 1,25 Fibostop Jäger Smr 1224 & Smo 36 Dual Axsis Motor Dynasat F1 Monterey 140 Drembox 800 sky Pace HD Box Tagra 2,20 M Fullsize Dish Echostar 2,40m Mesh for cband! | 2 days ago fec change to 9:10 now signal is much stronger then before,but astra says,the beam will be change again to a special polish north spot only,so this result is only temporarly! | ||
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My System: Sky UK, Canal Digital Finland, TM6900 - 28°E/19°E/13°E/1°W | At the moment I'm getting this at 82% quality off a 45cm Sky Zone 1 dish in Helsinki, Finland. All other Astra 1 transponders are between 68-83% quality so it is one of the stronger ones. Signals don't tend to break up unless they go below 45-50% on my TM6900 box. Will be interesting to see how it changes. | ||
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